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HerefordSire":3o66rczk said:
angie":3o66rczk said:
Also ~ in the minds of many, what Frankie said is an absolute, regardless of the websites you pull up or the research you quote.

Please elaborate on the blue and red colored print seperately.

For example, "the minds of many"...what about the complementary population having minds?

Also, for example, ""an absolute"...meaning it is proven?
"An absolute" means that it is undebatable. It is as it is. It is accepted as fact. To argue would be blasphemy, or something like that. You get the idea.

As to the second, who makes up the "complementary population"? I don't understand that, and need to if I am going to answer. I am thinking it is off the track of this thread, though it is TB's thread, and I am not sure at this point he cares what happens to it.
 
angie":3mxpm48k said:
"An absolute" means that it is undebatable. It is as it is. It is accepted as fact. To argue would be blasphemy, or something like that. You get the idea.

As to the second, who makes up the "complementary population"? I don't understand that, and need to if I am going to answer. I am thinking it is off the track of this thread, though it is TB's thread, and I am not sure at this point he cares what happens to it.

Nephilim is in the bible which is the main reason why I don't ignore the possibility. Are you saying Nephilim didn't exist and never mated with humans?
 
HerefordSire":nj87729u said:
Nephilim is in the bible which is the main reason why I don't ignore the possibility. Are you saying Nephilim didn't exist and never mated with humans?
For Petes Sake HS, as much as I love to argue, I don't care enough one way or the other to form an opinion on this topic. At no point have I implied what my thoughts are on the subject one way or the other. I have seen those discussions and have no desire to participate in one.
 
angie":mm3eq4ie said:
HerefordSire":mm3eq4ie said:
Nephilim is in the bible which is the main reason why I don't ignore the possibility. Are you saying Nephilim didn't exist and never mated with humans?
For Petes Sake HS, as much as I love to argue, I don't care enough one way or the other to form an opinion on this topic. At no point have I implied what my thoughts are on the subject one way or the other. I have seen those discussions and have no desire to participate in one.

At least you didn't delete the thread yet. :mrgreen:
 
HerefordSire":22khw9sv said:
Nephilim is in the bible which is the main reason why I don't ignore the possibility. Are you saying Nephilim didn't exist and never mated with humans?

That's one of those parts of the Bible that doesn't get talked on or preached about my friend.......
 
grannysoo":1er8bcuc said:
HerefordSire":1er8bcuc said:
Nephilim is in the bible which is the main reason why I don't ignore the possibility. Are you saying Nephilim didn't exist and never mated with humans?

That's one of those parts of the Bible that doesn't get talked on or preached about my friend.......


What if the bible was literally true in these regards? Would it make sense to believe one part and not the other?
 
And since this thread is still alive and well, let me get back to my stated point. We are all 99.9% the same. If you think that the .1% does not matter, call this guy and talk to him:

http://www.physorg.com/news162659550.html

physorg.com ":1kh38yza said:
Mixed-race patients struggle to find marrow donors
May 27, 2009 By JULIANA BARBASSA , Associated Press Writer Mixed-race patients struggle to find marrow donors (AP)

Nick Glasgow, left, who has Leukemia, is comforted by his mother Carole Wiegand at the Kaiser Permanente Medical Center in Hayward, Calif., Friday, May 22, 2009. If Glasgow were white, he would have a nearly 90 percent chance of finding a matching bone marrow donor to treat the leukemia that has robbed him of his dark hair and whittled 20 pounds off his bodybuilder's frame. But because the 28-year-old is one-quarter Japanese, his doctor warned him the outlook was grim: Glasgow's background would make it almost impossible to find a match, which usually comes from a patient's own ethnic group. (AP Photo/Marcio Jose Sanchez)

(AP) -- If Nick Glasgow were white, he would have a nearly 90 percent chance of finding a matching bone marrow donor who could cure his leukemia.

But because the 28-year-old bodybuilder is one-quarter Japanese, his doctor warned him the outlook was grim. Glasgow's background would make it almost impossible to find a match, which usually comes from a patient's own ethnic group.

The doctor "didn't say it was slim-to-none. He didn't say it would be hard. He said 'zero chance,'" Glasgow's mother, Carole Wiegand, recalled with tears in her eyes. "When Nick heard that, it sent him plummeting."

At a time when the number of multiracial Americans is rising, only a tiny fraction of donors on the national bone-marrow registry are of mixed race. The National Marrow Donor Program is trying to change that by seeking more diverse donors for patients suffering from leukemia, lymphoma and other blood diseases.

"The truth is, when people of different backgrounds marry and produce offspring, it creates more types that are harder to match," said Michelle Setterholm, the program's director of scientific services. "The probability just gets lower when you have people of mixed ancestral DNA."

The number of people who identify themselves as multiracial in the United States has grown from 3.9 million in 2000, the first year the census included the category, to 5.2 million in 2008. Mixed-race people account for 1.6 percent of the U.S. population.

The donor program has been pushing for years to recruit more racial minorities and mixed-race donors. So far, multiracial volunteers make up just 3 percent of the 7 million people on the registry.

That is higher than the percentage of mixed-race people in the U.S. But there are so many possible racial and ethnic combinations that finding a match can still be extremely difficult.

The reason that mixed-heritage patients are so hard to match can be found in the immune system.

Populations in different parts of the world developed certain proteins, or markers, that are part of the body's natural defenses. These markers help the immune system determine which cells are foreign and should be rejected.

A match between two people who share many markers will reduce the risk of the donor and recipient cells attacking each other. Because certain markers tend to cluster in particular ethnic groups, matches are most often found among people of shared backgrounds. Multiracial patients often have uncommon profiles and a much harder time finding a donor.

About 6,000 patients in the U.S. are awaiting a bone marrow match.

Finding compatible organs for transplant is simpler. Organ matches rely essentially on blood type, which is not related to race.

Glasgow's grandfather, an Army soldier from South Carolina, fell in love while stationed in Japan after World War II and married across racial lines at a time when it was illegal to do so in many states.

From his Japanese grandmother, Glasgow got the almond shape of his eyes and cell markers that set him apart from most other whites. From his white grandparents, he got markers that set him apart from other Japanese.

Geary Moya's background - part Navajo, part Mexican - has kept his life on hold since 2005, when he was diagnosed with non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. Chemotherapy has put his cancer in remission, but a bone marrow transplant is his only hope for a cure.

"I can't work. I can't plan. I just don't know what tomorrow will hold for me," said Moya, a 51-year-old former manager of an appliance company.

He often visits bone marrow drives, where he tries to encourage prospective donors to sign up.

"If it's not for me, it'll help someone," he said last week as he stopped by a booth registering potential bone marrow donors at California State University in Hayward. "There's a whole list of people out there waiting for someone to come along."

Moya watched and answered questions as a trickle of students filled out forms with their health history and ethnic makeup before swabbing the inside of their cheeks to collect the genetic material that will be used to match them to waiting patients.

If a match is found, they will undergo a painful procedure in which doctors withdraw liquid marrow from the back of their pelvic bones.

Among those filling out donor forms was Abe Rindal, a retired engineer who heard through friends about Glasgow.

Rindal was born to a Norwegian-American father and Japanese mother who met in Japan after World War II. They started a family before interracial marriage bans were struck down by the Supreme Court in 1967. Rindal remembers meeting only two other people with similar ethnicity.

"It was socially unacceptable back then," he said.

The chance to help someone of similar ethnicity appealed to Rindal. He not only filled out his form and swabbed his cheeks, he also sent test kits to his four siblings and their children in the hope they might be a match for Glasgow.

At the hospital, Wiegand prays for her son. Her niece started a Facebook group that has collected upward of 1,000 members interested in helping. The Asian American Donor Program has been contacting Japanese-American organizations, and large corporations such as Cisco have reached out to their employees via e-mail.

If chemotherapy sends Glasgow's cancer into remission, he might have months to find a match. If not, he might have far less time.

"I just keep thinking, `Please, everyone, get into that database,'" his mother said. "I just know there's a match out there somewhere for him."

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As I've told farmgirl, what she chooses to do with her life is her decision, and I wish her nothing but the very best. The only point I would like to make is that decisions have consequences. Perhaps not for you, but possibly for the children.

And to Frankie:

Frankie":1kh38yza said:
What a crock!
...and if we go back far enough, about 70,000 or so years ago, all our ancestors can be traced back to Africa.
That includes you, grannysoo. :lol: :lol:

It would appear that you think that when I'm not posting on Cattle Today, I'm pressing a Klan uniform or polishing the buttons. Nothing could be further from the truth. Never interpret my position as being racist, for it is not.

I am probably the most anti-discriminatory person on this board. I do not believe in discrimination at all. Not based upon race, religion, sexuality, or anything else. I believe in equal opportunity for all based upon peoples actions and performance.

I do not believe in preferences for anyone either, for that discriminates against others. That means that I'm against affirmative action, and quota based hiring. That also means that I'm against racial profiling by the police too. I believe in true equality, not socially/politically mandated equality.

The media wants for me to be ashamed to be white. Sorry, but I'm not.

And to the mods or MG, if this is out of line, please delete.
 
HerefordSire":1vhxuqpb said:
Frankie":1vhxuqpb said:
Whether you believe that every person on earth sprung from Adam and Eve or from Africa, we still came from the same ancestors.


I am not so sure about that. If you think we are all related, how do you explain this?
http://godssecret.wordpress.com/


Saw those ages ago...Inca I think or Aztec. Both practiced binding the heads to shape them in what was thought by them to be "more perfect" shapes. My grandson's head looked like they when he finally was born after a very long time in the birth canal. Two days latter it was round as a soccer ball. Finds like these have been common. Sort of like the people that file their teeth down to look like sharks...it's supposedly "beautiful".
 
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