Alan":26vgv8fs said:??? Black Baldies a new trend?? Get ready for it?? BB's have been topping the market for many years. The only way to get a true black baldy is a black angus crossed with a Hereford. Not disagreeing with Knersie, I believe the "purist" use a horned Hereford bull on Black Angus cows. If your getting ready for it your ten miles behind already.
TennesseeTuxedo":25khew1d said:You can actually taste the difference huh? Interesting.
I'm sure that Wagyu & Jersey have been winners for tender beef.skeeter swatter":1z2vs02k said:TennesseeTuxedo":1z2vs02k said:You can actually taste the difference huh? Interesting.
Actually there have been taste tests done among purebreds.
And Hereford was consistently the winner.
Carlos F.":asnp4d2b said:KNERSIE":asnp4d2b said:M5farm":asnp4d2b said:So angus/herford is the only one that will make a black baldie? What if a angus and herford sire and dam have a baldie calf this year and next year its a soild black off of the same angus and herford. The white face calf will taste better than the solid black ???
If you want true black baldiesit has to be angus and horned hereford if you're a purist. I've done a lot of crossbreeding and I'm yet to see a genuine hereford sire solid coloured calves.
Commercial cow. 75% Hereford x Red Angus.(could be 87,5% Hereford). Pure Hereford, no question about it, I guess the explanation is on the Red Angus side.
That particular herd Red Angus herd I had many years ago seemed to me it had Holstein influence, very little of the true Angus type I was used too.
skeeter swatter":2biyr6h2 said:TennesseeTuxedo":2biyr6h2 said:You can actually taste the difference huh? Interesting.
Actually there have been taste tests done among purebreds.
And Hereford was consistently the winner.
Aaron":3bian76g said:Did all of the Hereford influence come from operations that had Hereford and no other breed on the place? Reason I ask is I know a Hereford/Red Angus guy that sells bulls and more than once his whiteface bulls have thrown a solid on whiteface cows and a solid thrown a whiteface on solid cows.
skeeter swatter":3my72rxz said:Sure, it's a purebred "Black Hereford" :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
YESTaurus":33l329b9 said:But but but my local steakhouse has a statue of a longhorn...does that mean that I must switch my herd to longhorns?
And there you go. Said better than i can.SPH":1y4chbv1 said:Impressive this thread has gotten this big in less than 24 hours. Around here we call Angus Hereford cross black baldies and I can tell you that the baldy calves are definitely bringing good prices around here and the commercial breeders are seeking out Hereford bulls now more than ever. Nearly all our bull buyers have been commercial breeders with black Angus crossbred cows and 1 guy even told us he only buy Hereford bulls from now on as his Hereford cross calves have been weaning 100 lbs heavier than any cross he's done before. It's definitely has become a popular cross due to the heterosis you get by crossing Angus and Hereford genetics and all you need to qualify for the Certified Hereford Beef program is a white faced calf with Hereford influence.
cowgirl8":3c2694z3 said:And there you go. Said better than i can.SPH":3c2694z3 said:Impressive this thread has gotten this big in less than 24 hours. Around here we call Angus Hereford cross black baldies and I can tell you that the baldy calves are definitely bringing good prices around here and the commercial breeders are seeking out Hereford bulls now more than ever. Nearly all our bull buyers have been commercial breeders with black Angus crossbred cows and 1 guy even told us he only buy Hereford bulls from now on as his Hereford cross calves have been weaning 100 lbs heavier than any cross he's done before. It's definitely has become a popular cross due to the heterosis you get by crossing Angus and Hereford genetics and all you need to qualify for the Certified Hereford Beef program is a white faced calf with Hereford influence.
Then can you explain why you'd pay more for angus rather than a regular big mac?3waycross":2bpm6cep said:cowgirl8":2bpm6cep said:You watch, black baldie will be what people want. And if you're old enough, a black baldie is a angus/hereford.
And yes, obviously you can taste the difference, the reason now people pay a premium for an certified angus even at McDonalds.
HORSESHYT
cowgirl8":1koet1jo said:Then can you explain why you'd pay more for angus rather than a regular big mac?3waycross":1koet1jo said:cowgirl8":1koet1jo said:You watch, black baldie will be what people want. And if you're old enough, a black baldie is a angus/hereford.
And yes, obviously you can taste the difference, the reason now people pay a premium for an certified angus even at McDonalds.
HORSESHYT