New Heifers

[clarkmorefarm]

Been a minute since I've been on, still managing cattle and expanding the herd.

Picked up a couple of new heifers over the weekend.

They were advertised as Red Angus but definitely have some cross breeding in them.

I have my thoughts on what they have in them; I was curious what does the forum think?

 

[farmerjan]

Limousin.... maybe some brangus... They can use some of that good grass you have there... big framed...

 

[clarkmorefarm]

Limousin.... maybe some brangus... They can use some of that good grass you have there... big framed...

They were freshly weaned and vaccinated. I'd say they've been eating out of a trough mostly lately.

We have had wonderful weather for growing grass this year. After a very wet April and May, just when it's been getting a little dry, we get a decent rain to help everything grow. I have them on a couple of pastures now while I'm letting my other 3 rest.

They're loving the grass, good and tame as well. I'm pleased with my purchase so far. They won't be bred until I cycle in a bull next year. Give them a little more time to get some weight on them and develop.

 

[Travlr]

Been a minute since I've been on, still managing cattle and expanding the herd.

Picked up a couple of new heifers over the weekend.

They were advertised as Red Angus but definitely have some cross breeding in them.

I have my thoughts on what they have in them; I was curious what does the forum think?

Santa Gertrudis... Those wrinkles up over the forehead, the color, the close hair, and the extra skin say Gert to me.

Could be beefmaster or a red brangus, but more likely Gert.

 

[clarkmorefarm]

Santa Gertrudis... Those wrinkles up over the forehead, the color, the close hair, and the extra skin say Gert to me.

Could be beefmaster or a red brangus, but more likely Gert.

I was thinking Brangus but could be Gert. I don't know of any Gert herds around me, but doesn't mean they can't be somewhere in the state of TN.

 

[kenny thomas]

Red Poll or a cross. Give them a good injectable wormer and lots of grass.

 

[Warren Allison]

Looks like UltraReds to me. Like Ultrablack, only a Red Brangus x Red Angus cross.

 

[clarkmorefarm]

Looks like UltraReds to me. Like Ultrablack, only a Red Brangus x Red Angus cross.

That's what my thoughts were too.

I think they'll throw a good black calf once I get around to breeding them next year.

 

[clarkmorefarm]

Red Poll or a cross. Give them a good injectable wormer and lots of grass.

They'll have all the grass they can handle especially if we keep getting rain over the next few weeks.

 

[coachg]

Just up your way this past weekend watching my niece play soccer ️. She plays at Va Tech and they played Vandy an exhibition match. Never had been on Maryville’s campus .

 

[Brute 23]

X2 on the wormer and I'd hit them with MM90 shot also. Make sure they have salt and mineral out free choice.

They are definitely red. Every thing else is a guess. They look like the right kind, though.

 

[clarkmorefarm]

X2 on the wormer and I'd hit them with MM90 shot also. Make sure they have salt and mineral out free choice.

They are definitely red. Every thing else is a guess. They look like the right kind, though.

They've had multi men and been wormed. Along with vaccinations.

They have good mineral available free choice along with good city water

I keep telling my wife the secret to cattle is city water, good mineral, and grass!

I'll give them a little feed as they take it, but letting the grass do its magic.

My other bred heifers are plenty fat, hopefully they can share a little good grass.

 

[Warren Allison]

That's what my thoughts were too.

I think they'll throw a good black calf once I get around to breeding them next year.

Yes, if you use a homo-for-black bull, all your calves will be black. Those are some nice looking heifers

 

[Brute 23]

Yes, if you use a homo-for-black bull, all your calves will be black. Those are some nice looking heifers

You can not guarantee that. You have no clue what their background is.

Odds are they will be black, but it's not a guarantee.

 

[gcreekrch]

I’ll go with polled Gnu.

Whatever they are they have room to grow and gain.

 

[Warren Allison]

You can not guarantee that. You have no clue what their background is.

Odds are they will be black, but it's not a guarantee.

Red being recessive, a red cow is homozygous red. Bred to a homozygous for black, bull, the calf will be black. 100% guaranteed.

 

[sstterry]

Red being recessive, a red cow is homozygous red. Bred to a homozygous for black, bull, the calf will be black. 100% guaranteed.

I am not disagreeing with what you said, but you are assuming that a "Black Bull" is automatically homozygous. This is not always the case. A "black" bull can also carry the Simmental dilution gene, and appear black but not be homozygous.

(Ok, now my head hurts, and that is enough biology for me this morning.)

 

[simme]

Red being recessive, a red cow is homozygous red. Bred to a homozygous for black, bull, the calf will be black. 100% guaranteed.

Not 100%, but very close. Google "Red Charlie gene". There are some black animals that genetically test homozygous black (two black genes) but can produce red offspring due to the presence of this red charlie gene.

From Neogen - "Some cattle who are homozygous black at the coat color allele could have offspring who are red in color should they be carriers for this gene. Therefore, homozygous black animals which carry Red Charlie should be treated as red carriers"

 

[kenny thomas]

Not 100%, but very close. Google "Red Charlie gene". There are some black animals that genetically test homozygous black (two black genes) but can produce red offspring due to the presence of this red charlie gene.

From Neogen - "Some cattle who are homozygous black at the coat color allele could have offspring who are red in color should they be carriers for this gene. Therefore, homozygous black animals which carry Red Charlie should be treated as red carriers"

Are bulls tested for that gene?

 

[ClinchValley86]

Got Kenny torn up now, @simme