CCCowman
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Looking at a new baler. Vermeer Rebel 5400 or New Holland 450 Utility. Any opinions on these?
True Grit Farms said:A Vermeer 5400 is the simplest baler made, and the best. IMO And by the way the belts aren't supposed to turn until hay is forced against them by the pickup.
Red Bull Breeder said:I wouldn't have a Vermeer baler as a gift. Go deere or new Holland and bale hay.
pricefarm said:I like Vermeers. Why not get a new Vermeer say a 5410 or a m series's? I have a 554xl behind a 5525 JD and the baler will eat hay faster than my tractor will pull it on hills. And yes the belts on mine sometime turns real slow until there's hay in the pick up other times they don't move
Texasmark said:True Grit Farms said:A Vermeer 5400 is the simplest baler made, and the best. IMO And by the way the belts aren't supposed to turn until hay is forced against them by the pickup.
No idea as to the 5400 but my JD 375, for the STO type farm is a honey, hands down. Had to put some roller bearings in it because the PO left it out in the weather but being a '91 model....so be it.
Red Bull Breeder said:So you can bale hay when you need to. I have saw more Vermeer balers burn than any other brand. Never seen the net wrap work like I think it should on a Vermeer. I don't think they make a nice a bale as a Deere or New Holland.
cfpinz said:pricefarm said:I like Vermeers. Why not get a new Vermeer say a 5410 or a m series's? I have a 554xl behind a 5525 JD and the baler will eat hay faster than my tractor will pull it on hills. And yes the belts on mine sometime turns real slow until there's hay in the pick up other times they don't move
Assuming yours has them, have you adjusted the small coil springs on the bottom side of the large tension springs? On my old L, I had to adjust them occasionally - think the setting was 4-1/2". That helped to get the belts going at startup.
To the OP, the Rebel and Utility model are both base models, no frills and you get what you get. We've had Vermeer balers since the late 70's/early 80's and they've been good to us, both the balers and especially the company. Vermeer is one of the extremely few companies that I can say has been a pleasure to work with.
Cousin has the 605n. Sucked up 50 acres that made 137 rolls in about 5 hrs for me. Good tight bales.Silver said:Red Bull Breeder said:So you can bale hay when you need to. I have saw more Vermeer balers burn than any other brand. Never seen the net wrap work like I think it should on a Vermeer. I don't think they make a nice a bale as a Deere or New Holland.
I have a JD 566 that I parked shortly after I bought the Vermeer 605N. I just use the JD when I have to run two balers to catch up. I used to think it was quite a machine but now I can see that there is no comparison between the two.
And I wouldn't have a NH under any circumstances. Too many of them in the area with all sorts of gremlins.
So I guess to each their own.