bigbull338
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the chain dont affect their breeding.weve done it to 1 or 2 hol bulls because they was pretty rank.the chain dont need tobe as heavy as a log chain or lite like a swing chain.but heavy enough they know they have it on.
I hear that....can't see how 20-30 lbs. of chain would be much of a deterrent for a 1500 lb. PO'd bull. Maybe if you chained the other end to 3-4 cross ties it would at least slow him down a little.cow pollinater":2j688f7j said:I used to have a customer that wanted me to breed behind his bulls that would chain anything that chased me or the milkers...
About the only benefit that I ever saw has that you could hear them clanking so you always got some warning before they got you.
Suzie Q":8tmxbdye said:I would say that you need better fences to keep other people's bulls out and your bull in.
I am sorry to hear that he is hurt. Will he recover?
I went out with my bull fighting a bull over the fence. There is usually electricity there. I went down and the other bull was more scared of me and took off. My bull turned and walked away.
I went further down to check the fence and as soon as I had passed them they were back at it again.
I found a wire touching the fence and shorting it out. By the time I had used the plastic covered handles to remove it and bend it where it couldn't touch again and turned back around they both had decided that the fence was no longer any fun and grazing was better. That could have been done day or night with a torch.
backhoeboogie":37k2km4w said:Suzie Q":37k2km4w said:I would say that you need better fences to keep other people's bulls out and your bull in.
I am sorry to hear that he is hurt. Will he recover?
I went out with my bull fighting a bull over the fence. There is usually electricity there. I went down and the other bull was more scared of me and took off. My bull turned and walked away.
I went further down to check the fence and as soon as I had passed them they were back at it again.
I found a wire touching the fence and shorting it out. By the time I had used the plastic covered handles to remove it and bend it where it couldn't touch again and turned back around they both had decided that the fence was no longer any fun and grazing was better. That could have been done day or night with a torch.
Better fences won't stop some bulls. Nothing will. I've got videos of one of my neighbor's bulls. Electric don't cut it either.
Suzie Q":3ho2xsys said:I electric train mine in a yard that they cannot get out of. That fence I was talking about above also had 5 strands of barbed wire, which they were fighting over. Just one plain wire electric wire which once turned on deterred both the bull that was trained for electric fencing and the next doors bull which may not have been trained.
If you put them in with an electric fence that they can go through, cattle are different from horses and when they get the 'bite' they go forward through the fence instead of back like horses do. Which is why I train them in paddocks that they can't go forward and learn to go back instead of forward.
TOUCHWOOD. It has worked so far - 7 years. So far bulls on both sides of the fence have been Droughtmaster, Charbray, Brahman and one neighbour who had all kinds of bulls and changed all the time so I don't really know what breeds they all were.
highgrit":2dgun1u7 said:No problems yet my cattle are trained to a hot wire. Do you guys check the voltage on the fence regularly?
C B you shouldn't make them so mean, my uncle's told me the same thing if they want to go their going.
Suzie Q":1p59lazc said:I electric train mine in a yard that they cannot get out of. That fence I was talking about above also had 5 strands of barbed wire, which they were fighting over. Just one plain wire electric wire which once turned on deterred both the bull that was trained for electric fencing and the next doors bull which may not have been trained.
If you put them in with an electric fence that they can go through, cattle are different from horses and when they get the 'bite' they go forward through the fence instead of back like horses do. Which is why I train them in paddocks that they can't go forward and learn to go back instead of forward.
TOUCHWOOD. It has worked so far - 7 years. So far bulls on both sides of the fence have been Droughtmaster, Charbray, Brahman and one neighbour who had all kinds of bulls and changed all the time so I don't really know what breeds they all were.
In the US we have open/free range states/areas that means you are responsible to fence them out. If it isn;t a open/free range state/area the owner is responsible to fence them in.Suzie Q":1d1vydb7 said:Our laws might be different here. We have to keep cattle in.
If you have bulls getting in from outside you can get them taken to the pound. The owner can be charged and have to pay to get the bull out.
We had another fence that was not 5 strand barbed wire because of where it floods. 250 cattle dumped there and owners left for home over 2 hours away. Cattle in our farm every day and taking down every fence daily.
I asked for help from the former owner who came out and showed me how to test and fix the electric fence. Those cows and bulls did not come through that fence once the electricity was over 5000.
That was great entertainment for me the day it was fixed. Watching them touch the fence and get zapped.
Muhahahahahahahaha yes I am very evil.