LuckyLegs
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My most recent purchase, and first red angus. I like think she looks decent, your thoughts.
LuckyLegs said:My most recent purchase, and first red angus. I like think she looks decent, your thoughts.
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LuckyLegs-
Just for practice, be specific and tell us a few of the positive multiple trait selection characteristics that you like, and what traits you would like to see improved upon in her progeny in the future.
She has a lot of potential for your herd.
DOC HARRIS
LuckyLegs":3d9yfjzr said:I like her depth and length. Would like to see a flatter topline, shorter teats, hind legs may be a little too straight. She is head and shoulder above the rest of my herd!
3waycross":kg427swx said:LuckyLegs":kg427swx said:I like her depth and length. Would like to see a flatter topline, shorter teats, hind legs may be a little too straight. She is head and shoulder above the rest of my herd!
Good observations...........I would add that she could use a bit more length in the hip.
DOC HARRIS":2dd3813v said:Achieving those traits by multiple trait selection choices could result in a more desirable hind leg muscle development ( avoiding 'funnel butt' characteristics ), elevated "scrotal" EPD ( thereby 'moderating the Milk EPD ) and shortening the teat lengths.
aka,,, gone ass :cowboy:Lone C Ranch":hlmfadcr said:DOC HARRIS":hlmfadcr said:Achieving those traits by multiple trait selection choices could result in a more desirable hind leg muscle development ( avoiding 'funnel butt' characteristics ), elevated "scrotal" EPD ( thereby 'moderating the Milk EPD ) and shortening the teat lengths.
Doc,
What do you mean by 'funnel butt' characteristics?
KNERSIE":2o1gpzpu said:Doc are you suggesting embryo transfer? I hope this cow isn't the intended donor?
The cow probably could be a decent calf raiser and that may be all you need out of her, but she won't be on my shortlist to build a herd from.
Nothing beats a simple, to the point answer. :clap:ALACOWMAN":3lbyiuox said:aka,,, gone ass :cowboy:Lone C Ranch":3lbyiuox said:DOC HARRIS":3lbyiuox said:Achieving those traits by multiple trait selection choices could result in a more desirable hind leg muscle development ( avoiding 'funnel butt' characteristics ), elevated "scrotal" EPD ( thereby 'moderating the Milk EPD ) and shortening the teat lengths.
Doc,
What do you mean by 'funnel butt' characteristics?
Lone C Ranch":1ql57qud said:DOC HARRIS":1ql57qud said:Achieving those traits by multiple trait selection choices could result in a more desirable hind leg muscle development ( avoiding 'funnel butt' characteristics ), elevated "scrotal" EPD ( thereby 'moderating the Milk EPD ) and shortening the teat lengths.
Doc,
What do you mean by 'funnel butt' characteristics?
DOC HARRIS":vhb3x04a said:KNERSIE":vhb3x04a said:Doc are you suggesting embryo transfer? I hope this cow isn't the intended donor?
The cow probably could be a decent calf raiser and that may be all you need out of her, but she won't be on my shortlist to build a herd from.
KNERSIE-
You are absolutely correct! I AM absolutely suggesting "Embryo Transfer" to LuckyLegs (NOT 3waycross). And, yes, this cow is the intended donor.
Now, before you blow a heart gasket and find yourself in the arms of a caring Health Care Provider, let's peruse the given facts here, and select the most logical and available option for the reasonably and financially viable method of improving this herd! Of course this cow is not a candidate for your shortlist. Mine either. BUT, here is a tenable suggestion for consideration by LuckyLegs to follow for a few years (3-5) to achieve a reasonable goal upon which to focus for a future breeding protocol. LL has this cow now, and while she is not the ultimate Donor we would select for herd perfection, by following my original agenda elucidated herein this thread considerable improvement could be achieved - withoutbreaking the herd budget! And...any genetic mistakes that might be made in the overall process could be considered minimum as compared to those occurring using an expensive donor. "A Bird in the Hand is Worth Two In the Bush".
Learning and Education can be financially debilitating!
DOC HARRIS