She's real cute..good straight top line. I have a polled cow who has be ai'd to pure angus and two calves had horns/scurs..could be scurs..the horns they had never amounted to much...maybe 3-4". Good luck with her. Donna
My 1st Heifer- Whadduyah Think?
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aplusmnt
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would a longhorn cow and a fullblood Angus be solid black? or is it possible to have coloration like this?
Richie, she looks to be a nice heifer. Good top-line, seems to have pretty good depth, rear may be a little weak - but that could be the way she is standing or the picture. I don't really like her head, but I tend to prefer more feminine heads on the girls - just my preference. Overall she looks like she will do what you want her to do. Good luck with her! Just my thoughts.
My comment on dehorning comes from the aspect of her eventually using them on other cows. If she hooks another cow it could cause that cow to abort. I know there is a lot of cows with horns out there but I try to limit them on my place. I only have a few with horns.
It can sometimes be pain getting the horned cows in the chute and caught also. Therefore I save myself from this eventual problem by either not buying or not raising horned stock.
I'm not saying she would use them but you never know so why not get rid of them now before she misses them. ;-)
It can sometimes be pain getting the horned cows in the chute and caught also. Therefore I save myself from this eventual problem by either not buying or not raising horned stock.
I'm not saying she would use them but you never know so why not get rid of them now before she misses them. ;-)
Rustler9
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Ryan,
What do you mean explain or discuss more? I see cattle in the show ring from time to time that display characteristics other than Longhorn such as double muscled, rear end structuring and of course very minimal horn growth. I'm sure you would have seen this too from time to time as you are involved in show cattle. That's it and that's all.
What do you mean explain or discuss more? I see cattle in the show ring from time to time that display characteristics other than Longhorn such as double muscled, rear end structuring and of course very minimal horn growth. I'm sure you would have seen this too from time to time as you are involved in show cattle. That's it and that's all.
Rustler9":2fjqk0jr said:
I just wanted your opinion on your comment.
I have noticed the characteristics you stated, except double muscling, in the show ring. However, I feel that these animals have been produced through years and years of selection and hard work by the breeders.
I am not saying that crossbreeding hasn't been done. I do not feel that top end cattle are crossbreds though. I know most of the breeders who exhibit the shorter-horned higher-muscled animals and know them to be honest (although some have known to fudge birthdates), hard-working breeders who strive to produce the highest quality cattle they can.
I am sorry if my statements are harsh or something like that. I just tend to take it personally when I hear of people say that the Texas Longhorns I help raise, or ones similar to them, are not real or pure or 100% or whatever Longhorns, b/c they have exceptional bodies and not the extreme horns that people normally expect or think of.
Ryan
warpaint
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Very nice heifer. I also raise Longhorns and I am very pleased with the breed. While some may have the impression that their mean and unruly, I have found them to be gentle, excellent mothers. One of these days I'll figure out how to post pics. :roll:
Rustler9
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Ryan,
That's fine but you shouldn't take offense to what I stated-I didn't imply that your cattle aren't pure. I actually have another breeder that is closer to where I live in mind although I can't prove that he crosses them. I just highly suspect that he does. I just know that I would not want to use his bulls on my cattle, they just don't look like a Longhorn and I'm not the only person who says this. I do know that alot of people fudge on birth dates etc. and if I have to do that to win-I'd rather stay home. I cross breed some animals myself but they don't find themselves blending in to my purebred gene pool-to me this hurts the Longhorn breed as it dilutes the bloodline.
That's fine but you shouldn't take offense to what I stated-I didn't imply that your cattle aren't pure. I actually have another breeder that is closer to where I live in mind although I can't prove that he crosses them. I just highly suspect that he does. I just know that I would not want to use his bulls on my cattle, they just don't look like a Longhorn and I'm not the only person who says this. I do know that alot of people fudge on birth dates etc. and if I have to do that to win-I'd rather stay home. I cross breed some animals myself but they don't find themselves blending in to my purebred gene pool-to me this hurts the Longhorn breed as it dilutes the bloodline.
Rustler9
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The friend that I referred to earlier in this post who has the beautiful cross bred heifer from the baldy cow and the Longhorn bull just told me that the baldy cow was a product of a black Angus bull and a polled Hereford cow. I'm not an expert on horned and polled genetics but that's what the heifer is out of. They were commercial stock so there may possibly be some horned blood in the cows makeup but nevertheless that's what they produced-a beautiful horned heifer that you would be hard pressed to look at as a crossbred.
warpaint
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Thanks, Msscamp. I did try that once and haven't had a chance to get back to it. Maybe today. 
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I understand you weren't directing it towards me. It is a shame that some people do crossbreed and market/register them as pure. I too would like to get into a little cross breeding, but I would register them as the crossbreds they are and be proud of them.
Ditto
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RichieMaGoo
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....sounds alot like the cattle show circuit is doing to cattle what the dog shows have done to alot of purebred dogs- producing animals that can win ribbons...but who have lost most of the true good traits that their breeds were originally noted for.
I've had nothing but mised-breed dogs all my life....and I think I'll stick with "mutt cows" too.
I'm sure learning alot from all you nice people on this board...almost makes up for all my wasted years of city living!
Thanks, everyone!
I've had nothing but mised-breed dogs all my life....and I think I'll stick with "mutt cows" too.
I'm sure learning alot from all you nice people on this board...almost makes up for all my wasted years of city living!
Thanks, everyone!
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RichieMaGoo
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MikeC":j1kd0pvb said:
HAHAhaha.....da boat a yews!
