What does lime cost in your neck of the woods , I was floored yesterday when I was told by the feed store fertilizer dealer he had just priced lime at $225 a ton that is not the applied cost. My test showed it needed 1 ton to acre, this is in Central Tx. I think it is time to re-evaluate my soils and grasses and stocking rate, then establish grasses that are adapted to the soil and not plant hybred grasses and try to adapt the soil to the grass, if a person wants to make money off of $400 to $500 calves we are going to have to operate as cheaply as possible, in our area people stock their places to the maxium with no excess grass, this damages the root system and the grasses slowly die out then the weeds take over, and when the first frost comes they have to feed every bite they eat till spring. When it takes 4 round bales to carry a cow through the winter and hay from $70 to $100 a bale , thats $280 to $400 per cow wheather she calves or not for who has a 100% calf crop, then you add in all other costs mineral,proteins, medicines, interest on borrowed money to operate, then you sell a calf for $400 to $500 so where's the profit. But we all hang in there because it's like an adiction there is no cure for till we go broke.