Hurricane Sandy

[Workinonit Farm]

CB mentioned IKE. It was bad, real bad. I slept in a tent for 12 days after IKE came into Texas while working to help get food, water, and whatever else was needed delivered there. It was bad but the community pulled together and made things happen. They didnt wait for FEMA to do it.
And CB I do agree with your opinion of FEMA. The Southern Mens Baptist Association fed many more people after IKE than FEMA even knew lived there.

Makes me think about what happened in '69 down in Nelson county, when 32 inches of rain fell in that one area and all the mudslides and such. (No I was not there at that time, but had some friends who helped search for missing, and bodies and helped with food and clothes).

Katherine

 

[Caustic Burno]

CB mentioned IKE. It was bad, real bad. I slept in a tent for 12 days after IKE came into Texas while working to help get food, water, and whatever else was needed delivered there. It was bad but the community pulled together and made things happen. They didnt wait for FEMA to do it.
And CB I do agree with your opinion of FEMA. The Southern Mens Baptist Association fed many more people after IKE than FEMA even knew lived there.

Makes me think about what happened in '69 down in Nelson county, when 32 inches of rain fell in that one area and all the mudslides and such. (No I was not there at that time, but had some friends who helped search for missing, and bodies and helped with food and clothes).

Katherine

In 79 Claudette moved in and stalled and dropped 42 inches in 24 hours that was bad.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropical_S ... ette_(1979)

 

[greybeard]

For some reaon, I couldn't get your link to work,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropical_S ... ette_(1979)

 

[CKC1586]

Obummer sure took advantage of Christies good will toward him and got some good press. TV appearances are his priority. In my opinion.

 

[shorty]

We got thru sandy okay , only about 2 inches of rain , but lots of wind ,branches down all over , some tin off one roof here , two big cedar trees fell on house roof on other farm but they kind of just laid on roof and didn't do much damage . We got power back friday morning , other farm got it back at noon today , my inlaws are still out . Dairy farm near my inlaws lost the one end of a 250 head freestall barn , luckily no cows were hurt , but its a real mess . Most schools here were closed all week.

 

[wv mud river]

here in western west virginia we got 4 inches of rain but it has been such a dry summer and fall the creeks and small streams absorbed all the rain. no floooding thank God but alot of snow in the mountains but its only nov. may be a wild winter.

 

[Calman]

I think probably any kind of a dangerous situation that you personaly experience seems more real to you than anybody elses danger.
While serving in Nam I escaped many close calls that I know about and probably a lot of close calls that I didn't know about.
But I'm gonna have to say the one that has never left my memory was when my wife and two daughters one 2yrs old and other 4yrs old got killed in a tornado back in missouri while I was in nam and there was no way to notify me until 2 weeks after it happend.The funeral was over by then and they would not send me home until I served the rest of my tour which was six more months.I was planning on making a carrer out of the service until this happend.Since I already had seven years in and was a staff sgt But at the same time my tour ended it was time to re-enlist. Soon when I reached stateside I told the army it could kiss my a$$.
And yes I was bitter to everyone and everything for some time. Took a while to get my head screwed back on straight.
Least I think it may be anyhow.

Cal

 

[greybeard]

Wow.
Can't blame you Cal-I would have been way past bitter & I don't think I would have ever gotten my head back anywhere close to right after something like that.

 

[pdfangus]

Calman,

I was in the army during viet nam but somehow a trip to the jungle avoided me even though I volunteered twice. There must be something I was put here to do but so far it has eluded me.

Anyhow I know what you mean about the Army at that time. I would like to believe that today it is better. There is certainly better communication and I think there might be a tad better compassion than back in those days.

Just living at Fort Carson screwed up my head and it took me several years to reorient myself into society. Some say I never have.

 

[TexasBred]

again you have a different perspective.....
not trying to minimize it.....
those storms are one reason that I would not like to live down there just like cold is why I will never move north.

A lot of areas were affected but I think the thing about this storm that has so many people bug eyed is the sheer number of people that were so heavily concentrated in a small area. New Orleans has 3-400 thousand people....NY, NJ had millions in a very small area. If you had that type concentration down on the gulf coast I think we'd really find out what Armageddon is all about. It wouldn't have just been a storm surge but 150 mph winds with VW's flying with it along with baseball size rocks and other missles. The pics on TV sure show you just how there is really no way to prepare for one of these monsters and no way to anticipate what you're going to be faced with once it passes....some of those poor folks looked like if they had a gun they would have just ended everything right then. Burns my butt too when I hear people say it makes them grin, giggle or say "I told you so" when fellow humans are being battered by a disaster like this.

 

[dieselbeef]

poor people..no food or gas..no place to go..no money..hey..maybe that 500$ phone or tablet can run yer microwave..or pump some water for ya..or better yet...trade it for a generator..sheeple

got in line for a phone for 2 days..but dont have any extra water in thier house...ever thought of canned goods in yer closet or too bust getting the latest app that plays little birdie games...see if you can eat it cuz the food in that dumpster yer diggin in is spoiled

 

[Caustic Burno]

again you have a different perspective.....
not trying to minimize it.....
those storms are one reason that I would not like to live down there just like cold is why I will never move north.

A lot of areas were affected but I think the thing about this storm that has so many people bug eyed is the sheer number of people that were so heavily concentrated in a small area. New Orleans has 3-400 thousand people....NY, NJ had millions in a very small area. If you had that type concentration down on the gulf coast I think we'd really find out what Armageddon is all about. It wouldn't have just been a storm surge but 150 mph winds with VW's flying with it along with baseball size rocks and other missles. The pics on TV sure show you just how there is really no way to prepare for one of these monsters and no way to anticipate what you're going to be faced with once it passes....some of those poor folks looked like if they had a gun they would have just ended everything right then. Burns my butt too when I hear people say it makes them grin, giggle or say "I told you so" when fellow humans are being battered by a disaster like this.

TB Katrina effected millions as well Misissippi got hammered along with Alabama not just NOLA that got the media coverage. Most people are unware that Rita the most entense storm ever recorded in the Gulf of Mexico hit S/E Texas Western La ever happened three weeks after Katrina. The media was to busy covering NOLA were they were crying for the Government.They had a levee problem not a hurricane.What did they expect never me when they built in a bowl below sea level.
The Houston/Galveston area is millions as well that got hammered by Ike along with entire communities wiped out.
The difference is they got hit this time. This is were all the major media is located so it has to be worse.
Except for NOLA the people here were not looking for the government to tell them how to survive.
A totally different mentality. TB not that I don't feel sorry for them you got to learn to care of yourself as well.

 

[backhoeboogie]

This thread reads well. Lots of opinion and lots of common ground too. Mostly it is understanding and not being able to understand on my part.

Hank Jr's "Country Boy Can Survive" comes to mind. I got a generator. I got a welder than can generate. I got inverters with batteries on the Cat, hoe, tractors, trucks etc. IF - you run out of fuel, a simple inverter can power a lot. I've got coleman lanterns both propane and gas. Oil lamps too. Coleman stoves - both types there also. Food and canned goods. Freezer full of fish and beef.

My weakness - coffee. Maybe only a week's worth of coffee. I should stock up on coffee.

We camp out for weeks every year. Back during the Y2K scare everyone said they were coming to my place. Nephews, nieces, in-laws, friends. I told them to "come on" if they needed to.

I've been hit by tornado. I was burned out in '90 and lost everything but the house. My home owner's policy paid me 10% for "out buildings." I sucked it up and went on. I'd do it again. I survived hurricane Carla on the coast of Texas as a child. I was in Kenai, Alaska on Good Friday of '64 when the earth quake hit. We could not get out for months until a new road was built. We drank powdered milk for months.

Don't like to see anyone suffer but I would much rather contribute to someone who puts forth a lot of effort. The old saying about not being able to help someone who won't help themselves. People need to be a bit more resourceful and less dependant on Wal-Mart.

We'll get hit by another Sandy, Ike, earthquake, tornado etc. Take a look at the list of items recommended to have for a disaster. How many of them do you have? I've got it all and then some. Except for a whislte. They say you should have a whistle. That makes me laugh.

I need coffee. Probably need to throw out that old Carnation powder milk too and buy a fresh batch. You never know when kids might need it.

 

[backhoeboogie]

Calman I am yet again humbled. Thank you for being who you are. Bless you.

 

[Calman]

Calman I am yet again humbled. Thank you for being who you are. Bless you.

Thanks Boogie,Life seems to have a way of turning itself around.
After I quit being so hard hearted and realized other people had problems just as bad or worse than I had It turned around for me. Its been a struggle but I try not to look back.
I am now a happy old man with two sons and two daughters and twelve wonderful grandchildren.
Been a long time since I had to have at least a pint of courage just to start the day off.
Don't get me wrong I still like my beer and a good mixed drink every now and then but I don't feel like I have to have it just to make it through another day.
The ol boy upstairs has been mighty patient with me but on the other hand he must have had faith in me.

Cal

 

[TexasBred]

poor people..no food or gas..no place to go..no money..hey..maybe that 500$ phone or tablet can run yer microwave..or pump some water for ya..or better yet...trade it for a generator..sheeple

got in line for a phone for 2 days..but dont have any extra water in thier house...ever thought of canned goods in yer closet or too bust getting the latest app that plays little birdie games...see if you can eat it cuz the food in that dumpster yer diggin in is spoiled

All sounds good gary IF you can find the closet.

 

[TexasBred]

[The difference is they got hit this time. This is were all the major media is located so it has to be worse.Except for NOLA the people here were not looking for the government to tell them how to survive. A totally different mentality. TB not that I don't feel sorry for them you got to learn to care of yourself as well.

No the difference is the concentration of the people. NYC has 9 million people n a spot no larger than your county. Many of the folks did exactly as told and got out of Dodge....others stayed hotels, etc.Some like NOLA decided to ride it out and died. And yes they're looking for help just as the Gulf Coast folks have always done. Maybe not you but the TV cameras have been o nthat area in the past as well.....no shame in looking for water, food and housing especially when yours is over in the next county in splinters and your closet full of generators and food is somewhere other than the lot it use to sit on. The gulf coast does not rely almost solely a subway system which is full of water. I see no way to hurricane proof a house. Even a metal structure like yours CB hit with the right amount of win and water would leave like a leaf in the wind and take you with it. But I don't think yours is sitting on the beach either. ;-)

 

[dieselbeef]

its the total lack of priorities and the fact that theyre complaining cuz no one is helping them...stop complining and get in line early..start walking..do something besides piss and moan

 

[greybeard]

I don't mind folks needing, asking for, or accepting a hand up or helping hand when a natural disaster hits em. That is one of the responsibilities of the central govt (Fed and states) under what is known as the 'general welfare' clause of the tax code and mentioned in the preamble. IF, we can spend billions and billions on foreign aid every year, then we certainly shouldn't shy away from spending the same like amts after natural or even man made emergencies for our own peoples. Yes, there will be some abuse of this, but by and large, it's something we shouldn't quibble about too much.

What I DON'T accept and DO mind, is the hypocritical attitude I have seen since the advent of the internet. This week, I looked back on some other forums at the threads concerning the aftermath of Andrew, Rita, Ike and Katrina, and was astonished (not really) to see that some of the same NE members on those forums that railed loudly and often about funds and assets spent for those storms are now screaming loudly that not enough is being done for NJ and NYC. Go figure.

 

[TexasBred]

I What I DON'T accept and DO mind, is the hypocritical attitude I have seen since the advent of the internet. This week, I looked back on some other forums at the threads concerning the aftermath of Andrew, Rita, Ike and Katrina, and was astonished (not really) to see that some of the same NE members on those forums that railed loudly and often about funds and assets spent for those storms are now screaming loudly that not enough is being done for NJ and NYC. Go figure.

GB I think it's just human nature. Many things are fine with a lot of us as long as it doesn't involve us. Guess I'm luck having never been in a hurricane or tornado...I'd probably be fussin' and cussin' just like the others. It did pi$$ me off when I heard they running off repair crews, light company crews from Alabama and other groups just because they weren't union but I see that more as just a bunch of greedy SOB's hoping to make a killin' on OT regardless of how long the folks have to do without electricity.