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Had to pull a massive calf out of a heifer earlier. Hard pull on heifer and calf. Flooding rain here and I have no idea how long she was in labor. When I found heifer, calfs tongue was extremely swollen and I figured calf was dead. It's alive and up trying but tongue and jaws too swollen to eat. I went ahead and tubed it. Wondering how long for tongue swelling to subside?
 

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Usually see great improvement 24-48 hours. Banamine might help. Hopefully the calf will keep trying to suck even if weak; the more physical activity the faster the swelling will go down. Even if you have to tube it again to make sure it is getting fluids, movement of the tongue as in sucking reflex will help to move the fluid/swelling out of the tongue etc.
 

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Silver":1b78xioj said:
Won't be long. I would give both cow and calf Metacam.


Meta cam would be by fast best that is what it’s designed for
 

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This is a case of swelling/edema due to compromised venous return (being stuck in the vaginal canal for a protracted period), not due to an inflammatory process.
Anti-inflammatories, like Banamine or Metacam are not indicated. While they won't likely 'hurt' anything, they won't do anything to speed up resolution of the swelling.
Just because you have something in a syringe, doesn't mean that you should necessarily give it.
 

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Lucky_P":1wzxr7ov said:
This is a case of swelling/edema due to compromised venous return (being stuck in the vaginal canal for a protracted period), not due to an inflammatory process.
Anti-inflammatories, like Banamine or Metacam are not indicated. While they won't likely 'hurt' anything, they won't do anything to speed up resolution of the swelling.
Just because you have something in a syringe, doesn't mean that you should necessarily give it.

Here we go with the science again....
 

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angus9259":3aw3jd74 said:
Lucky_P":3aw3jd74 said:
This is a case of swelling/edema due to compromised venous return (being stuck in the vaginal canal for a protracted period), not due to an inflammatory process.
Anti-inflammatories, like Banamine or Metacam are not indicated. While they won't likely 'hurt' anything, they won't do anything to speed up resolution of the swelling.
Just because you have something in a syringe, doesn't mean that you should necessarily give it.

Here we go with the science again....
And we're fortunate enough to have this one....
 

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angus9259":3p24xyj6 said:
Lucky_P":3p24xyj6 said:
This is a case of swelling/edema due to compromised venous return (being stuck in the vaginal canal for a protracted period), not due to an inflammatory process.
Anti-inflammatories, like Banamine or Metacam are not indicated. While they won't likely 'hurt' anything, they won't do anything to speed up resolution of the swelling.
Just because you have something in a syringe, doesn't mean that you should necessarily give it.

Here we go with the science again....
yeah don't confuse us with the facts!!!
 

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Lucky_P":2wb3vxxh said:
This is a case of swelling/edema due to compromised venous return (being stuck in the vaginal canal for a protracted period), not due to an inflammatory process.
Anti-inflammatories, like Banamine or Metacam are not indicated. While they won't likely 'hurt' anything, they won't do anything to speed up resolution of the swelling.
Just because you have something in a syringe, doesn't mean that you should necessarily give it.
You sound like our vet Lucky, you must not work for the drug companies.
 

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Those drug companies can be a vets worst enemy...changed a little since the antibiotic restrictions..but they ain't their friend..
 

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Meloxicam is probably the best analgesic we have for cattle... though its use is 'extra-label', it is allowed, and reasonable meat/milk withdrawal times are known.
It appears to be far superior to aspirin(approved for use in cattle), flunixin(banamine - which is only approved for IV administration... IM is off-label and calls for extended withdrawal times), or phenylbutazone(not approved for use in food-producing animals)... and has a functional half-life of about 26 hrs vs 9 hrs for flunixin.
Not totally innocuous, but if you're looking for relief of pain/discomfort... it's the way to go. And it's relatively inexpensive.
 

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Jeanne - Simme Valley":w8lt1k85 said:
Never heard of Meloxicam. Thanks for info.

A friend of ours takes it every day, as a "preventive" for Gout flare ups. Another friend of ours, has a dog, that is given meloxicam daily for his issues.
 
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