So price it back live after you know the hanging weight.LimiMan":3912k7j7 said:In Oklahoma, you have to sale by the live wt, not hanging wt. Unless you have a retail license.
So price it back live after you know the hanging weight.LimiMan":3912k7j7 said:In Oklahoma, you have to sale by the live wt, not hanging wt. Unless you have a retail license.
They will find ways around that. I have been seeing alot of smaller yards getting all their financing thru the packers conditioned on they sell only to that packer. Good interest rates as well. Wondering how long that runs before the market reflects those captive numbers of cattle.hillsdown":3up1y590 said:Options so we agree that we are all in this together, and that the packers should not be a conglomerate or be able to own live cattle etc. cows/calves (pairs or individuals meant for breeding), feeders etc.
They will never bring $85. Example imported beef.LimiMan":114g93ut said:I agree, but there is a market out there for hormone,antibiotic free cattle. And that small market is willing to pay more for that product. Since there is a market for those type of animals, in my opinion those salers would be doing more damage to the industry selling at $.85
Look to the CME to cover risk not the american consumer.LimiMan":e3njpp1f said:Also the risk factor has to be figured in somewhere, dosent it? I keep my calves 7-8 months longer than normal, what risk is the packer taking? My prices are going up next fall
options":tgo8z2nv said:Honestly it is the gut fill thing that bothers me the most with srbeef. I'm certain the consumer knew nothing of that. But I also get tired of hearing people cry about the packers and their profits and then those same people turn around and charge the same or even more $ with less expenses. The packer is actually more honest.hillsdown":tgo8z2nv said:Options, just curious but what was your break even price before BSE when you bought feeder cattle.. Oh wait, it would have been much less than ours then too, as our whole market went in the crapper no matter how well you could manage your herd.. The cow calf produce here has been the bottom of the pyramid for a long time.
I really do not know why you are b@tching at one person probably selling 2-3000 lbs of beef to some friends ..Is he gouging, maybe . But so is the natural source store around us that sell new york steaks for 29.99 a pound and still manage to stay in business.
I still remember a story by a friend of ours who had a very good producing dairy herd. A fellow toured his barn, asked about a cow , he was told she is not for sale, the man said I will pay x amount of dollars for her now. My friend delivered her the next day. I guess everything has a price, it depends on what you want to pay for it.
gberry He starts with the live animal weight x $1.30/lb on the animal alone, he then adds in kill and processing and then he divides the total by the finished pounds of saleable beefdepending how cut. You really need to read the posts better before trying to comment on them.SRBeef":19oevjop said:Just using that as a "respectable" live weight fat price and working backwards from there. For example, on an 1100 lb steer I want to gross 1100 lb live x $1.30/lb = $1430 on the animal alone. Add in kill and processing and divide the total by the finished pounds of saleable beef (depending on how cut) and I see that as a fair selling price per pound for a split half which includes all cuts of steaks roasts etc and lots of good hamburger. Add a small delivery charge if out of my way. Not sure if this is the best way but seems to work. This system also makes you pay attention to dressing percentage. It is also more work than just loading the trailer.
Jim