Guess when (pics)

[milkmaid]

I honestly don't know. I've always wormed with Ivomec Plus just in case... but sounds like a really good question for my vet. lol.

 

[Beefy]

yeah you should ask. i asked mine if we have flukes around and he told me that from what he understands we are a little north of their range but i'm extremely skeptical about that.

 

[milkmaid]

Georgia north of their range?? doesn't leave much area for them then does it? LOL.

I'll check with him and let you know what he says. If we have flukes up here I'm sure you have them down there. :lol:

 

[Beefy]

thats what i said. i know we have flukes. KNOW it. especially in the swampland.

 

[milkmaid]

What's different about the swampland? I'll admit I don't know that much about flukes...ought to pull out the books and see if I can find some reading material.

Do you happen to remember what % of open cows it's said flukes account for? I saw it written once on an advertisment for Ivomec Plus and never could find those numbers again. :?

 

[dun]

If I remember correctly the intermediate host for the liver fluke is some kind of snail. In the CA central valley we only had them in the flood irrigated pastures.

dun

 

[Beefy]

we do have them here according to all you wanted to know about liverflukes (merial):

http://us.merial.com/producers/cow_calf ... _plus.asp#
(check out the technical bulletins)

 

[milkmaid]

Guess we do have them then. :idea: The article on diagnosis of fluke infection has a map and Idaho's one of the states that can have problems with flukes. That's interesting. And we do have quite a bit of swampy ground out here...guess mosquitos aren't the only things hiding out there. :lol:

And dun, you're right, the host is a snail per those articles. :nod:

 

[Beefy]

wasnt it some crazy number like 40%? i cant find it on here.

we get those 5 dollars off things in the mail about once a month. i'll look next time.

 

[milkmaid]

Might have been; I remember it was a pretty big number. Only ones I can find at the moment are under "The Economic Importance..." and say

• Economics
  Liver flukes can cause direct economic losses resulting from increased
  mortality as well as liver condemnations at slaughter, and indirectly from
  decreased productivity. For example, liver condemnations at slaughter
  check indicate that flukes can be found in about 68% of beef cows in the
  Florida peninsula. This is particularly important because most of Florida’s
  1.1 million beef cows are located in this area. It follows that a high
  percentage of calves from this area will also have liver fluke problems
  since they graze the same infected pastures as their mothers.
  Fluke infections cause significant economic losses to the Florida cattle
  industry. Data from a large survey of Florida cattle producers indicated
  that when cattle received treatment for liver flukes with albendazole,
  culled cows were 18 to 22 pounds heavier, 1% to 3% more calves were
  produced, and the weaning weight of calves was 30 to 45 pounds heavier.

'Night ya'll, it's long past my bedtime. Logging off....

 

[Beefy]

did you see the part about Idaho?

 

[Beefy]

dont forget to look at this one too:
http://ivomec.us.merial.com/cowcalf/par ... flukes.asp

 

[sidney411]

MM- I'm pretty sure that the only effective time to defluke your cattle is in the fall due to the flukes life cycle. The extra $ spent on Ivomec+in the spring really doesn't do anything so I use a generic pour on. In the fall I use ivomec+ injectible.

I vote for July 15th - my BD!

If she has it in the 15th can I have her for a present? :lol:

 

[farmwife]

Early afternoon of 7/20/06 - heifer calf.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Man ur good ! Can you tell at 30 days bred :shock: :lol:

 

[farmwife]

Nice udder for a nurse cow.
My guess is sunday morning the 23rd. Right after you get your church clothes on and one leg in the car door.

Don't laugh -- we started down the driveway on our way to church and our neighbor (on his way to church, too -- same church) came down his driveway across the road herding our cows back home. What a sight all of us in our Sunday best penning cows. :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[glover36]

not to much of an udder for a 2nd calver is she?

 

[certherfbeef]

not to much of an udder for a 2nd calver is she?

In all honesty, she is a nurse cow, her udder is not under the pressure it would be if she was being milked twice a day. The calves keep the pressure off it and therefore it will not be as big as a normal dairy cow of her same age.

Just my opinion.

 

[backhoeboogie]

In all honesty, she is a nurse cow, her udder is not under the pressure it would be if she was being milked twice a day. The calves keep the pressure off it and therefore it will not be as big as a normal dairy cow of her same age.

Just my opinion.

I agree. My nurse cow is never milked. Her job is to feed calves. They get the nutrition they need. Perfect match.

 

[TheBullLady]

Hmmm.... how about the 19th, heifer calf? You should at least get a heifer calf.. everyone is rooting for you!

 

[warpaint]

MM- I'm pretty sure that the only effective time to defluke your cattle is in the fall due to the flukes life cycle. The extra $ spent on Ivomec+in the spring really doesn't do anything so I use a generic pour on. In the fall I use ivomec+ injectible.

I vote for July 15th - my BD!

If she has it in the 15th can I have her for a present? :lol:

Whoa, back up there Sid. Already tried to establish ownership of the heifer. Was told I would get a pic, If I was correct. :lol: