Its not that I'm against ssi or other programs that person pays into all their working lives . what I am against is not having a choice about paying into those programs . I would be willing to bet I can come out way ahead by investing the same amount of money I have to give the gov. Programs . My grand ma gets 560 dollars month . On social security . And that's her sole income she's 77 . But social security wasn't meant to pay people for 30 year s after they retire either .