kenny thomas
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Going today to check on getting fertilize ordered for the spring. Mixed to my soil test results. Anyone ordered yet? How are the prices? I only use a few ton but still shop around.
Got them ordered, didn;t seem too nuts to me. Lime was cheaper then I expected.kenny thomas":39f0nlpq said:Going today to check on getting fertilize ordered for the spring. Mixed to my soil test results. Anyone ordered yet? How are the prices? I only use a few ton but still shop around.
gcreekrch":3i3silaq said:Glad that fertilizer and irrigation pumps are two costs we don't have. The wolves and grizzlies are cost enough.
Would you share with us your Urea practices? If I go to the bulk dist, I get straight AN for Nit. If I buy it by the bag I may get AS or AS and Urea for the N. Since I can't always time the application, or incorporate it into the soil, I shy away from it....but had rather not if practical.zirlottkim":26stcmue said:I spread Urea on ryegrass today. $375 ton.
Urea is the nitrogen AGRI-AFC offers. They rent the spreaders too. I plant rye grass in the fall and apply 13-13-13 when planting. Then come back later and apply anywhere from 150 lb to 300 lb per acre of urea according to how much rye grass I have planted. Usually 40 to 70 acres. I always get a full spreader (3 1/2 ton) because it's an hour drive one way. I'm no expert and still learning.Texasmark":z6jyizlb said:Would you share with us your Urea practices? If I go to the bulk dist, I get straight AN for Nit. If I buy it by the bag I may get AS or AS and Urea for the N. Since I can't always time the application, or incorporate it into the soil, I shy away from it....but had rather not if practical.zirlottkim":z6jyizlb said:I spread Urea on ryegrass today. $375 ton.
poorboy":3w4lxtkc said:Isn't it all coated now? Seems like I heard that to take the fun factor.
Bright Raven":30flkmcl said:I get N in the compound Urea. It is tricky! We had a UK agronomist present at one of our Extension events. It left me with the impression that in a no-till application unless you are lucky or have a wizard cast a spell controlling the conditions after you apply, that you are wasting your money. If it gets wet by dew, ground is wet, or get less than a quarter inch of rain, the Urea goes into the gaseous phase and is not tied up in the soil.
There are inhibitors but they only extent the time frame for proper conditions to occur. The losses are significant, up to 60 percent.https://youtu.be/OdHCeZvkgY8
Stocker Steve":20oymnpx said:Bright Raven":20oymnpx said:I get N in the compound Urea. It is tricky! We had a UK agronomist present at one of our Extension events. It left me with the impression that in a no-till application unless you are lucky or have a wizard cast a spell controlling the conditions after you apply, that you are wasting your money. If it gets wet by dew, ground is wet, or get less than a quarter inch of rain, the Urea goes into the gaseous phase and is not tied up in the soil.
There are inhibitors but they only extent the time frame for proper conditions to occur. The losses are significant, up to 60 percent.https://youtu.be/OdHCeZvkgY8
Interesting. I had assumed if you got a little moisture and the pellets melted - - then you were good. :?
So bottom line is avoid urea surface application and go with a lower total applied cost for AMS?
Bright Raven":3vt706yy said:If it is available. Most everything here is urea.
Stocker Steve":q3bvf16j said:Bright Raven":q3bvf16j said:If it is available. Most everything here is urea.
We have both. The University of MN and the agronomy salesmen both push sulfur. Problem is a 6" soil test does not tell you much about leachable elements... So I have been moving more to tissue testing.
I have focused on working with nature and cut way back on chemical fertilizer. I still put about 25 to 30# actual on a few paddocks that have not been bale grazed recently and/or are being used for turn out. Otherwise I delegate to legumes.