rk":275ioxq4 said:Laminitis usually results from acidosis (often chronic, but sometimes can result from one or a few incidents of low pH in the rumen). Acidosis occurs when pH drops....usually from rapid starch fermentation, not protein content.
What is the difference?GMN":176rxj6b said:I did not say laminitis, I said flounder
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rk":3jauwbzj said:Laminitis is the inflammation of the laminae - the "hoof tissue secreting part of the foot. It's often referred to as founder. In cattle, it's almost always caused by "grain overload", causing rapid starch fermentation in the rumen. Not protein.
laminitis is inflammation of the foot, usually the underside, causing lameness, whereas founder is a condition brought on by nutrition, where the bottom part of the foot gets soft. Regardless of what causes it, it won't cure itself, and if left untreated the cow will go lame, then you may as well just eat her.Wewild":3aln4lj9 said:What is the difference?GMN":3aln4lj9 said:I did not say laminitis, I said flounder
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Wewild":3ky6tun1 said:rk":3ky6tun1 said:Laminitis is the inflammation of the laminae - the "hoof tissue secreting part of the foot. It's often referred to as founder. In cattle, it's almost always caused by "grain overload", causing rapid starch fermentation in the rumen. Not protein.
I thought grain contained more protein than other food stuffs.??????
"Diseases such as metritis and mastitis can cause laminitis, but the most common and serious cause of laminitis is ruminal acidosis resulting from high concentrate feeding.
http://cvm.msu.edu/extension/docs/heel_fr_lm.htm
milkmaid":2drufmfo said:Lamanitis and founder are one and the same... just one is the technical term and the other is the layman's word for it.
Wewild":2txvewbr said:milkmaid":2txvewbr said:Lamanitis and founder are one and the same... just one is the technical term and the other is the layman's word for it.
Thats what I think as well.
milkmaid":2zpngxuz said:Wewild":2zpngxuz said:milkmaid":2zpngxuz said:Lamanitis and founder are one and the same... just one is the technical term and the other is the layman's word for it.
Thats what I think as well.
Just FWIW... it's not just MM's opinion ...it's stated in the Merck Vet Manual too.
hillsdown":1p326xvb said:but I have never heard a cow refered to as having founder always laminitis.
milkmaid":2o7ijmlk said:Lamanitis and founder are one and the same... just one is the technical term and the other is the layman's word for it.
milkmaid":3ofh1nu5 said:Lamanitis and founder are one and the same... just one is the technical term and the other is the layman's word for it.