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Have not seen anyone posting pictures of Charolais here. Any breeders out there?
I use Black Simmental bulls now but for years used Charolais for crossbreeding with very good luck. Thinking about buying a couple of young Charolais bulls this fall if I can find the right ones.
 
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I saw the one cypress posted. I would be looking for some that are 6-6.5 frame with a lot of muscle. Epd's mean a lot but I like eye appeal also. I will not buy without EPD info, no matter how good they look.
 

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Are you looking to buy or AI or something? I think the 6 and 6.5 frame may be a little ambitious. Most Chars have bigger frame scores than that.
 

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Go buy some blonde daquitaines for the terminal instead, crosses great with simmenthal (at least the red ones), more muscle, easier calvings, same growth.
 

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Jeanne - Simme Valley":1u7wp2b0 said:
Here in USA we've really moderated our frame size. Should be able to find 6 - 6.5 frame Chars.
Anazazi - not many blonde's around that I am aware of - other than dumb blonds like me! :banana:

Hope we follow suit
 

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I meant dumb blonde daquitaines!
Even if they are rare you only need one, if it is a bull.
 

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If the cattle are yellow here, they bring more than black. Not sure of all the ways to make yellows though.

In Town: Kathy works as a bookkeeper for Danny and Donna Montgomery. They own Fiser Kubota. They have the Fiser Kubota tractor stores in Russellville, Ark., and in Little Rock.

In the Country: Kathy's farm, located outside Harrison, Ark., was passed down to her from her father. Most of it was the original family homestead, and some he added over the years. She runs around 100 head of cattle. She has hay put up on shares, around 500 or 600 bales every year. She runs a Charolais bull on her red cows or a Red Gelbvieh bull on her Charolais cows. These crosses bring her yellow calves. She says yellow Charolais calves bring more than straight Charolais often.

Why did you choose Charolais and Gelbvieh?
"We have quite a bit of a coyote problem. The Charolais cows are very protective. They will fight the coyotes or dogs. They're different like that. And the Gelbvieh, I love my Gelbvieh bull. He is so gentle. Gelbvieh cows are a little easier to work with."

http://www.ozarksfn.com/index.php?optio ... &Itemid=92
 

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kenny thomas":1dmbx8bx said:
Have not seen anyone posting pictures of Charolais here. Any breeders out there?
I use Black Simmental bulls now but for years used Charolais for crossbreeding with very good luck. Thinking about buying a couple of young Charolais bulls this fall if I can find the right ones.

Don't have time right now, but I'll post a few later today...
 

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aussie_cowgirl":2gipk5nt said:
Are you looking to buy or AI or something? I think the 6 and 6.5 frame may be a little ambitious. Most Chars have bigger frame scores than that.

Jeanne is right. The American breeders have really been able too moderate the frame on the Chars.

Genex lists this sire as a 6.1 frame
http://genex.crinet.com/beef/index.php? ... 51&lang=EN

This one is a 6.3
http://genex.crinet.com/beef/index.php? ... 44&lang=EN

This one is red and polled
http://genex.crinet.com/beef/index.php? ... 54&lang=EN
 

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kenny thomas":3n14ktvz said:
Have not seen anyone posting pictures of Charolais here. Any breeders out there?
I use Black Simmental bulls now but for years used Charolais for crossbreeding with very good luck. Thinking about buying a couple of young Charolais bulls this fall if I can find the right ones.

How about a good Red Angus bull Kenny :)

If I were to get into the Char deal or use some Char genetics, I would really look hard at the Lindscov Theil program. Pick up a Genex or ABS book and they are all over the place. I know the people and the ranch and they are as good as you will find. They ranch about 1/2 hour drive from us. Mike Callis has used his genetics and has bulls for sale in Alabama, but I am sure their are breeders in your area that have infused the LT genetics into their program.

Here is their website
http://www.ltranch.com
 

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Brandonm22":380gg6td said:
aussie_cowgirl":380gg6td said:
Are you looking to buy or AI or something? I think the 6 and 6.5 frame may be a little ambitious. Most Chars have bigger frame scores than that.

Jeanne is right. The American breeders have really been able too moderate the frame on the Chars.

Genex lists this sire as a 6.1 frame
http://genex.crinet.com/beef/index.php? ... 51&lang=EN

This one is a 6.3
http://genex.crinet.com/beef/index.php? ... 44&lang=EN

This one is red and polled
http://genex.crinet.com/beef/index.php? ... 54&lang=EN

none of those links work but it's ok I take your word for it.
 

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Kenny, there is a breeder thats a good friend of mine that lives about 7-8 miles from here. He has a website with cattle Today. www.bjrsummerford.com He has some really good Charolais cattle and they are really good people.


Circle H Ranch
 

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He still looks like a calving ease bull too. He's nice as well. I'm really big on depth, as you can see with my preference. I think the LT are nice though. I can't remember the other bulls I was looking at...

Edit: Another good growthy one is OBG Stan but his calving ease isn't as good as the LT bulls

What were you going to put the Charolais over?
 
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BRG you caught me. I would be ran out of the county if I bring in a Red Angus bull though. What I have in mind is some of your Red Angus commercial heifers and a Charolais bull. Cattleman200, the bull LT Thundering Wind 5200 from their farm is also what I had in mind. I think he is co-owned with the ranch BRG mentioned.
 
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aussie_cowgirl, I have bred the Charlois bulls to about every breed with pretty good success, even longhorn. In the US pure Charolais feeders usually do not sell very well but the cross do well. No matter what I cross them with they sell as a CharX. Not so with a lot of other breed bulls. If I get a spot from the Simmental or Angus bulls it is took out of the group and sells at a discount.
I am using 4 Homo Black Simmy bulls now and really like the growth but have a few spots that are going to cost me at sale time. Too all others bulls I have used are, very good Black Angus, Black and Red Limo's, Black Gelvieh's(sp), and now the Simmys and I still like the Charolais best.
 

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