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ismith

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"Use **** **** on heifers with peace of mind, keeping daughters as replacements and generating big profits on his high growth male progeny as bulls or steers."

101 lb calf out of a first calf heifer, hard pull and luckily I've been able to get the calf to nurse on mom who cant stand up. It has been a long weekend.
 
Hopefully she will get up shortly. If not one of these cranked on their hips and lifted sometimes will help them get up.

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jltrent said:
Hopefully she will get up shortly. If not one of these cranked on their hips and lifted sometimes will help them get up.

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Those have saved several of ours.

Build a pen around them if they aren't inside and keep a loader tractor parked close by. Lift them up once or twice a day, let the loader down a little at a time so they can move around a little and get some weight on their legs for a while.

We have an apron style lifter as well but never use it, it's a real pain to put on.
 
ismith said:
"Use **** **** on heifers with peace of mind, keeping daughters as replacements and generating big profits on his high growth male progeny as bulls or steers."

101 lb calf out of a first calf heifer, hard pull and luckily I've been able to get the calf to nurse on mom who cant stand up. It has been a long weekend.
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Been there, heard about the same sales pitch, they said sleep all night calving ease bull, put him with a set of heifers and not have to worry. We used the bull the first year on cows and no problems average sized calves and good growth, then our proven heifer bull got an injury and we decided well they sold him as a heifer bull so we'll use him. Big mistake, bred 6 to him and had to pull three, one of which was the hardest normal presentation pull I've ever pulled. I was surprised but very glad when the calf was alive, then was even more surprised when the cow actually was able to get up and ultimately lived too.
 
ismith said:
"Use **** **** on heifers with peace of mind, keeping daughters as replacements and generating big profits on his high growth male progeny as bulls or steers."

101 lb calf out of a first calf heifer, hard pull and luckily I've been able to get the calf to nurse on mom who cant stand up. It has been a long weekend.
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Bull calf?
Hows mama doing?
She upright. That's a good sign!
 
Holy smokes!
101 pound heifer calf!!

Hopefully shes up and going soon. Last one I had, rested several hours then decided she was good to go. She went down in the chute when we pulled hers. She was very wound up! Made her way out of the chute with her front feet. It was pretty crazy. My calf didnt make it. But mama is raising her second now. Pretty nice heifer actually.
 
Stand the heifer up 1-2 times a day with hip clamps, give her 200-400 mg Dexamethasone IV one time. Most cows with calving paralysis will get up if you are patient enough. My rule is if the cow isn’t trying I won’t either. Should be showing some improvement in 2-3 days.
 
I've never bought fully in on the calving ease. You guys breeding registered stuff, it might work as predicted. You go crossing a "calving ease" bull on any other breed, and a crossbred is what you get. That heterosis starts in the womb. I kept 16 heifers this year. I normally go with a longhorn or corriente on heifers. I've been kinda maxed out on my work load for a year and a half. I turned my heifers out with cows to be bred. Had to pull the first heifer to calf today. I honestly don't remember how long it's been since I pulled a heifer. Big nice 1400 pound heifer. Youd think she could calve in front of anything. Now, she gets a trailer ride after 2 1/2 years worth of work and feed. Never again.
 
JKCattle said:
Stand the heifer up 1-2 times a day with hip clamps, give her 200-400 mg Dexamethasone IV one time. Most cows with calving paralysis will get up if you are patient enough. My rule is if the cow isn’t trying I won’t either. Should be showing some improvement in 2-3 days.
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She is definitely trying, and I think she is improving.
 
We tried a different, cheaper source for heifer bulls a few years back. Needed 8 new bulls and found some reds that were supposedly from a 50 year old herd that specialized in light bw cattle, had two older black bulls from our usual source to back them up. Bred 210 heifers, 30 open in 35 days, bulls looked the part and stayed together through the first winter.

Calves started coming, pulled 60%, many over 90 lbs from our little 950 to 1050 lb heifers. Some were so big we didn’t see any activity from the heifer until cotyledens started showing. Several c sections.
I think we ended up shipping 25 dry heifers out of the 180. Bull suppliers were nice enough to pay for DNA testing on all eight bulls and 40 of the heaviest calves. Much to their delight they thanked me for finding out a new bull that had sired 4 of the ones we had bought was the culprit.
We needed some new heifer bulls this year and went back to the bulls we knew will work. Double the price but a percentage of the work and way more calves to sell.
 
ismith said:
She is definitely trying, and I think she is improving.
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that's good, I had one 2 years ago, 109 lb heifer calf from a 950 lb first timer.. it was a rough night, and it took both of them a day to get up.. Dexamethasone definitely helped mine. I didn't need the hip lifters, I just rocked her back and forth a bit and steadied her once she stood

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She did alright
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I'm waiting for her sister to calf now, first timer, she was due friday, this time the bull is from a pretty reputable calving ease line.. we'll see!
 
That's a big calf all right. Always feel mixed emotions with those; stressed about the heifer/cow but happy about a big calf.

Our "heifer bull" is a Judd Ranch cull that we bought a few years ago because he's so small and the genetics were unable to be argued with for calving ease. Calves don't weigh jack at weaning but every heifer we've used him on has had a calf under 75lbs. Most are in the mid 60s - just plumb tiny. I don't care for him much but he makes hefier calving a lot less stressful.
 
JParrott said:
That's a big calf all right. Always feel mixed emotions with those; stressed about the heifer/cow but happy about a big calf.

Our "heifer bull" is a Judd Ranch cull that we bought a few years ago because he's so small and the genetics were unable to be argued with for calving ease. Calves don't weigh jack at weaning but every heifer we've used him on has had a calf under 75lbs. Most are in the mid 60s - just plumb tiny. I don't care for him much but he makes hefier calving a lot less stressful.
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Here's my new bull, definite an emphasis on CED over WW
https://cdgv.digitalbeef.com/module...l&file=_animal&animal_registration=CDGV169883
 

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