welshmatt88
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Here a few pictures of bulls we use at home, aberdeen angus 24 months and Piedmontese 22 months what you think
5minpins":3cxi8nfw said:I cant comment on the Pied but holey smokes thats some muscle, I did want to comment that in both pics, you should be able to see that the water on the windshield has distorted his legs badly from the hocks down, making the photo look funny, he is also facing down hill. the second pic he is facing downhill on a very steep hill and therefore not going to be squared up or posed very well. Sometimes you just have to look at the terrain to see why the pic looks funny.
welshmatt88":td8ash35 said:Yes i shall try to get better photo, could you comment further on the structural faults. thanks
TheBullLady":9k3igr1i said:The Pied looks like he's double muscled.. but I don't think that's a trait for that breed.
It seems that we have a couple of situations here. Obviously, the bulls are standing on a hill - which situation causes the hind legs to be placed more under the body than if they were standing on level ground. That is a given. Secondly, the Piedmontese , I believe,is double-muscled, therefore his hindquarters will cause his hock placement to appear as if he is sickle-hocked - which he may be. BUT, the problem here is: at what point does sickle-hocked-ness become too sickle-hocked when analyzing a bull?TheBullLady":2vkaofss said:The Pied looks like he's double muscled.. but I don't think that's a trait for that breed.
A better pic of him would show his structural soundness better.. his back legs seem under his body too much. You should be able to drop a line from his pins to his hocks to his ankles, which you couldn't come close to doing on him the way he looks in the pics. But no doubt he would look different on level ground.
TheBullLady":11q3gozp said:The Pied looks like he's double muscled.. but I don't think that's a trait for that breed.
A better pic of him would show his structural soundness better.. his back legs seem under his body too much. You should be able to drop a line from his pins to his hocks to his ankles, which you couldn't come close to doing on him the way he looks in the pics. But no doubt he would look different on level ground.
DOC HARRIS":1wjbqzd4 said:The stifle joint is the 'knee' in a quadruped. The 'hock' is analogous to the heel in a human being.
dun":e5a1bscs said:DOC HARRIS":e5a1bscs said:The stifle joint is the 'knee' in a quadruped. The 'hock' is analogous to the heel in a human being.
The hock is the hock the heel is the heel. Tw odifferent things.
http://www.ansci.cornell.edu/prodairy/h ... kscore.pdf
CKC1586":zqe2ou7a said:TheBullLady":zqe2ou7a said:The Pied looks like he's double muscled.. but I don't think that's a trait for that breed.
A better pic of him would show his structural soundness better.. his back legs seem under his body too much. You should be able to drop a line from his pins to his hocks to his ankles, which you couldn't come close to doing on him the way he looks in the pics. But no doubt he would look different on level ground.
The Piedmontese breed is an enhanced muscle breed, they have a naturally occuring two copy Myostatin gene. This does not manifest until the calves are about a month to six weeks old. Really neat to watch the little guys pop!
This bull looks pretty good although the pictures are not ideal, how old is he? What is his breeding?