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Alabamacowman: If you haven't bought a bull yet, I know a guy in Georgia who has a pile of horned Herefords. I am very pleased with mine. I can give you his contact info.
Send me his name and e mail. If they are any good at all I can bring them to Texas and move them..circlew":31aa2hjt said:Alabamacowman: If you haven't bought a bull yet, I know a guy in Georgia who has a pile of horned Herefords. I am very pleased with mine. I can give you his contact info.
well i bought one a couple weeks ago,, from a man who had been last on my list.. as far as price goes ..circlew":nmphh2tt said:Alabamacowman: If you haven't bought a bull yet, I know a guy in Georgia who has a pile of horned Herefords. I am very pleased with mine. I can give you his contact info.
I think if you looked at purebred herds of ALL breeds, there is very little differences any more on frame size. I believe the Angus cow is now the largest weight "national average" cow. Robert would have to chime in here for me, I don't know where to look that info up.cleland":6ga9az6p said:how good of replacements did those simmetal bulls make? Were they big framed eating machines that make hard doing replacements? People need to look past pounds sometimes. There are other benefits to using good genetics than pounds at weaning. Was the weather the same as last years crop? Were they the same age in days? There is alot more than can be looked at besides he went to angus bulls so he made less money. The heifers those angus bulls made might be twice the replacements from a 7 frame sim bull. Im not an angus breeder so i could care less just that people need to think more about what they are actually getting out of a bull
cleland":26wzborz said:how good of replacements did those simmetal bulls make? Were they big framed eating machines that make hard doing replacements? People need to look past pounds sometimes. There are other benefits to using good genetics than pounds at weaning. Was the weather the same as last years crop? Were they the same age in days? There is alot more than can be looked at besides he went to angus bulls so he made less money. The heifers those angus bulls made might be twice the replacements from a 7 frame sim bull. Im not an angus breeder so i could care less just that people need to think more about what they are actually getting out of a bull
JustSimmental":2kbx1ioh said:This commercial cattleman is not keeping replacement heifers as all his cattle are feedlot bound. As far as Simmys with frame score of 7 and being eating machines; lol, I dont believe I have ever owned a cow or bull with a frame score of 7......... Maybe you are referring to Fullblood Fleckvieh Simms....... PB Simms are MUCH different.
Most cattlemen/women know that Angus is weak in several categories when compared to Simm, Charolais or other breeds. They are weak in growth (WW and YW); REA and BF.
These are the facts > http://www.beefcattlebiz.com/support-files/abepd.pdf
Actually we weighed calves today on a group of PB Simmental first calf heifers and their calves average actual weaning weight was 608 lbs.
One first-calf heifer who weighs in at 1200 lbs weaned her first calf today at 733 lbs.
Frame score 7? --- NO //// Hay burner?--- NO
Here she is one day after calving last fall >>> http://www.beefcattlebiz.com/images/priss.jpg-- Does she look like a frame score of 7?
cleland":2kbx1ioh said:how good of replacements did those simmetal bulls make? Were they big framed eating machines that make hard doing replacements? People need to look past pounds sometimes. There are other benefits to using good genetics than pounds at weaning. Was the weather the same as last years crop? Were they the same age in days? There is alot more than can be looked at besides he went to angus bulls so he made less money. The heifers those angus bulls made might be twice the replacements from a 7 frame sim bull. Im not an angus breeder so i could care less just that people need to think more about what they are actually getting out of a bull
dun":2lyhqvei said:There may be a bull shortage someplace, but it sure isn;t in this thread!