Sim/angussim.-ang.king":2tpxie11 said:Looks promising, could work if his legs are built right.
What's his breeding?
No he's not out of the black Hereford.sim.-ang.king":12ekn7cu said:So he's out the angus bull, and not the cross bull with bad legs?
sim.-ang.king":33u1pugz said:So he's out the angus bull, and not the cross bull with bad legs?
Most of our sims from the 80s and 90s were reg, we just didn't reg them. When we went angus, we only bought reg angus...so, they are a mixture of sim and angus of various %......so, tech to us, they are sim/angus....M-5":j9cpozty said:sim.-ang.king":j9cpozty said:So he's out the angus bull, and not the cross bull with bad legs?
SimAngus
Any animal whose parents are both registered and is at least 1/8 Simmental and 1/4 Angus and no more than 1/4 other breed
in mixes like that, as good as the crossbred calf looks.it's a gamble if he can atleast reproduce himself, let alone better than..cowgirl8":resji4pq said:Most of our sims from the 80s and 90s were reg, we just didn't reg them. When we went angus, we only bought reg angus...so, they are a mixture of sim and angus of various %......so, tech to us, they are sim/angus....M-5":resji4pq said:sim.-ang.king":resji4pq said:So he's out the angus bull, and not the cross bull with bad legs?
SimAngus
Any animal whose parents are both registered and is at least 1/8 Simmental and 1/4 Angus and no more than 1/4 other breed
We are finally getting where we want. That red bull of ours, last year, pulled all his bull calves born Feb to May, hauled to the sale barn where they grouped most of them at the average of 651 pounds and sold for over 1000 a calf...So, I can confidently say they produce themselves..ALACOWMAN":lhmposaz said:in mixes like that, as good as the crossbred calf looks.it's a gamble if he can atleast reproduce himself, let alone better than..
cowgirl8":50e0g76x said:We are finally getting where we want. That red bull of ours, last year, pulled all his bull calves born Feb to May, hauled to the sale barn where they grouped most of them at the average of 651 pounds and sold for over 1000 a calf...So, I can confidently say they produce themselves..ALACOWMAN":50e0g76x said:in mixes like that, as good as the crossbred calf looks.it's a gamble if he can atleast reproduce himself, let alone better than..
Not sure what we do different than others who cant do this, but we have it working. I think someone here said its probably because our cows are good...Well, we've raised all our cows and yes, our cows are outstanding.
Bull with the bad legs has that wild gene we look for. Although I say his legs are bad, bad is his back legs are a little posty and him being so big its a little strange looking..This bull has such tremendous growth, although he didn't stop growing. He stands over a foot taller than out biggest cows at 3 with not one drop of feed or special treatment after he was weaned and his calves seem to be born moderate weight. He also has skurs, but, that's not too bothersome..but we did have a calf with skurs which is..BUt, we'll probably just sell that calf anyway.. This is our first year to get many calves out of him, he only produced a few last year since he was the youngest bull in the pasture.. We left a few bulls out of him bulls.
Thank you...elkwc":147o6q4h said:It is apparrent you have a program that works for you. It is hard for some to say a positive word. Jealousy doesn't look good on a person. Like I say if it works for you that is what matters. And pounds pay and it sounds like you are getting there also. By now the buyers at the barn know your cattle and that is why they sell well. They know how they will feed and do on the rail. Keep the pictures coming. Enjoy seeing them.
So he's a BH-Sim-brah-angus? He looks nice and would do well in the feedlot, but you would lose a lot of ground using him as a bull.cowgirl8":3mm98cqr said:No he's not out of the black Hereford.sim.-ang.king":3mm98cqr said:So he's out the angus bull, and not the cross bull with bad legs?
He will go into the bull pasture this fall and if he continues to grow he'll go out as a bull. Every calf we keep as a bull has to continue growing on grass.. So far, for the past 20ish years we've been selecting our replacement bulls like this. They outperform most of our reg bulls as to the reason we've continued this. Works for us, might not for others. If we were going to lose ground, we would have lost it years ago. Husband has an eye on picking replacements, he's really good at it. Our replacement cows have continued to improve. Most of our reg cows back last century had things I did not like. You drive through our herds and those problems are now just a faint memory.....We don't just keep bulls, we also keep every cow we have..If we were losing ground, we'd see it in our cows first.sim.-ang.king":2ztxultl said:So he's a BH-Sim-brah-angus? He looks nice and would do well in the feedlot, but you would lose a lot of ground using him as a bull.cowgirl8":2ztxultl said:No he's not out of the black Hereford.sim.-ang.king":2ztxultl said:So he's out the angus bull, and not the cross bull with bad legs?
Maybe cut him and break him as a show steer, then sell him or let a loval 4-h'er show him..
cowgirl8":1lcdnw0k said:He will go into the bull pasture this fall and if he continues to grow he'll go out as a bull. Every calf we keep as a bull has to continue growing on grass.. So far, for the past 20ish years we've been selecting our replacement bulls like this. They outperform most of our reg bulls as to the reason we've continued this. Works for us, might not for others. If we were going to lose ground, we would have lost it years ago. Husband has an eye on picking replacements, he's really good at it. Our replacement cows have continued to improve. Most of our reg cows back last century had things I did not like. You drive through our herds and those problems are now just a faint memory.....We don't just keep bulls, we also keep every cow we have..If we were losing ground, we'd see it in our cows first.sim.-ang.king":1lcdnw0k said:So he's a BH-Sim-brah-angus? He looks nice and would do well in the feedlot, but you would lose a lot of ground using him as a bull.cowgirl8":1lcdnw0k said:No he's not out of the black Hereford.
Maybe cut him and break him as a show steer, then sell him or let a loval 4-h'er show him..
elkwc":1c6rrdpp said:cowgirl8":1c6rrdpp said:We are finally getting where we want. That red bull of ours, last year, pulled all his bull calves born Feb to May, hauled to the sale barn where they grouped most of them at the average of 651 pounds and sold for over 1000 a calf...So, I can confidently say they produce themselves..ALACOWMAN":1c6rrdpp said:in mixes like that, as good as the crossbred calf looks.it's a gamble if he can atleast reproduce himself, let alone better than..
Not sure what we do different than others who cant do this, but we have it working. I think someone here said its probably because our cows are good...Well, we've raised all our cows and yes, our cows are outstanding.
Bull with the bad legs has that wild gene we look for. Although I say his legs are bad, bad is his back legs are a little posty and him being so big its a little strange looking..This bull has such tremendous growth, although he didn't stop growing. He stands over a foot taller than out biggest cows at 3 with not one drop of feed or special treatment after he was weaned and his calves seem to be born moderate weight. He also has skurs, but, that's not too bothersome..but we did have a calf with skurs which is..BUt, we'll probably just sell that calf anyway.. This is our first year to get many calves out of him, he only produced a few last year since he was the youngest bull in the pasture.. We left a few bulls out of him bulls.