Budget AR 15's

[dieselbeef]

I don't think chrome lined is good in a semi rifle that could be doing a mag dump or some fun shooting kinda rapid fire stuff

 

[tom4018]

Also found the Omni Hybrids for $430, have not seen them but they seem like a cheap gun.

 

[dieselbeef]

I may have stated it incorrectly when I read back..more twist ... lighter bullet spins faster... more stability...more accurate

I think I confused myself back there

 

[Brute 23]

The twist deal always screws me up. I have to look it up before I say some thing usually.

That is correct. The twist will determine the grain bullet. Shooting a good Branes, Hornady, Nosler... non-fmj.... bullet will help some.

.223/5.56 is not a deal breaker with hogs and I'm not reccomening people need huge calibers to kill hogs. The vast majority of hogs I have killed were with a .243. There is a huge percentage difference of actually killing a hog dead between a .223 and a .243+ caliber.

Great thing about ARs is enjoy your 5.56 and when you are able build you another upper in 6.8 for hogs. You only need one lower in many cases so it will be pretty cheap to have one of each.

 

[dieselbeef]

within each caliber, the heavier bullet typically does better in the faster twist.

 

[dun]

within each caliber, the heavier bullet typically does better in the faster twist.

The reason heavier bullets (unless the are homogenous) require a faster twist is because of length to diameter. The homogenous ones need faster twist because even though they are lighter they are longer for their weight. Too fast a twist can be detrimental to accuracy. We used to refer to it as "over stabilized). The lighter the bullet (remember the length caveat) the slower twist that is required. That's why old roundball shooting muzzle loaders had a 1:66 to a 1:72 twist. When shooting conicals became common they upped the twist to 1:48

 

[dieselbeef]

well I was trying to simplify it but I guess it got even more confusing...heavier is typically longer. the length is what most determines the twist rate. bearing surface of the bullet to bore.
a 1-7 means one turn in 7 inches. 1-12 is one turn in 12 inches.
dangit im confusing myself now. you really gotta be on this to understand..typing I lose my train
over stabilized is poss..bullets will actually deform if ''spun out'' the end of the barrel...

 

[dun]

well I was trying to simplify it but I guess it got even more confusing...heavier is typically longer. the length is what most determines the twist rate. bearing surface of the bullet to bore.
a 1-7 means one turn in 7 inches. 1-12 is one turn in 12 inches.
dangit im confusing myself now. you really gotta be on this to understand..typing I lose my train
over stabilized is poss..bullets will actually deform if ''spun out'' the end of the barrel...

Bearing surface doesn;t even matter, it's strictly a length to diameter equation.

 

[MudHog]

Is there a forging mark on the DPMS lower or upper?

 

[tom4018]

Is there a forging mark on the DPMS lower or upper?

If your asking me, not sure. I only priced them. Tried to buy a used one off a guy the other day, we talked but never got to see the gun.

 

[Kingfisher]

Tell me again what the preferred small caliber bullet is? Thanks in advance.

 

[dun]

Tell me again what the preferred small caliber bullet is? Thanks in advance.

For what? Pigs, deer, yotes, prairie dogs, etc.

 

[Commercialfarmer]

Tom, if you're still looking, some of these deals look decent.

http://www.wisearms.com/products/anderson-ar-15-16

http://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore. ... /ID/104547

http://www.slickguns.com/product/dpms-p ... obile=true

http://lanbosarmory.com/index.php?main_ ... s_id=32609

 

[Kingfisher]

Tell me again what the preferred small caliber bullet is? Thanks in advance.

For what? Pigs, deer, yotes, prairie dogs, etc.

Deer,pigs, dogs.

 

[dun]

Tell me again what the preferred small caliber bullet is? Thanks in advance.

For what? Pigs, deer, yotes, prairie dogs, etc.

Deer,pigs, dogs.

69-72 gr game bullets for the first 2, 55 gr hollow points for the latter. Someone, I think it may be Winchester has come out with a pig load that is supposed to be really deadly
Because of the grisle shield over the vitals, for a big old boar I would still work for a shot in the ear hole.

 

[Commercialfarmer]

www.midwayusa.com/product/2900167412/wi ... -lead-free

I found this while looking a while back. Someone else makes a wild boar load as well, maybe hornady?

Just found it, but it's quite a bit lighter.
www.midwayusa.com/product/849583/hornad ... -box-of-20