Bleach for scours

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Hummm, I keep reading references regarding using bleach as part of an initial treatment to control scours. The idea sounds like it makes sense, but has anyone here ever used it as part of the formula to treat scours?

I would have thought that even a tsp or a tblsp would be a bit hard on the digestion of a young neonate calf....am I wrong? And I assume we are talking about standard household bleach?
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As always ...thanks for the feed back.... your advice may prevent my bad experience. :cboy: up
 

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I'm a bit lazy tonight, so I just copied and pasted this out of one of my old posts.

Old Time Scour Remedy

1.5 Litres (just over a Quart) Warm Water
2 TBSP Brown Sugar
1 TBSP Salt
1 Raw Egg
1 TBSP Javex Bleach
Mix well and administer by tubing.
Here's how it apparently works:
The sugar, salt, water mixture is the equivalent of electrolytes (keeps the calf from dehydrating and provides energy).
The egg coats the stomach wall (and possibly provides some protein).
The bleach kills the scours bacteria.

Now I haven't tried it myself yet, as I haven't had a case of scours here this year, but it's early for our area so I'm sure that I'll be dealing with it in another month or so.

BUT from what I do understand, one fellow responded to the original posting of this "recipe" with pretty glowing reports.

Apparently, he had a 'down & outer' calf (prone, sunken eyes, etc) that he had used all the modern drugs and goodies on(and had gotten little to show for the money and time spent on them), and he came across the recipe and decided "what the heck"(figured the calf would be dead in the morning anyway), dosed the calf and to his delight the calf was up and sucking vigorously the next a.m.

Take care and good luck with the calves.
 

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One word of caution. Anytime you treat a calf with anything that "kills" bad bugs, you are also killing GOOD bugs. You should give the calf some type of lactobacyllis (sp?) like Probios Paste. Granted they can survive without it, but you are increasing it's chance of a quicker recovery & less chance of a relapse.
 

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One that I have used in tandom with conventional methods like probious to get the rumens back is cinamen. Excuse the spelling but this really seams to work. I have used it alone with some animals in the absents of convetional methods. Jsut sprinkle on feed. Few tbls.


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Never heard of cinnamon, but you deffinately can feed yogurt. Lots of good bugs! Also something people should eat (yuk - I don't like) when you have had a stomach bug. I take acidolphalus (sp) pills - can get at Walmart - whenever I am put on antibiodics.
 
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Yep, probios has been a staple on our farm for a long, long time. we also feed lots of plain and vanilla yogurts, as it's cheap enuff insurance. In the past, when ever we use any antibiotics on out cattle, especially our calves, we folloed up immedietly with probios and yogurt. Heck we reckin that in addition to the good bacteria, we are also "feeding" the calf with yogurt as well.

We were just wondering if any recipes for calf scour treatment we out there that worked and would save us some money when we seem to be getting epidemic scouring problems. (we buy several dairy calves from distant farms and auction houses, a true incubater for pathogens)
 

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CattleAnnie":65qz3749 said:
I'm a bit lazy tonight, so I just copied and pasted this out of one of my old posts.

Old Time Scour Remedy

1.5 Litres (just over a Quart) Warm Water
2 TBSP Brown Sugar
1 TBSP Salt
1 Raw Egg
1 TBSP Javex Bleach
Mix well and administer by tubing.
Here's how it apparently works:
The sugar, salt, water mixture is the equivalent of electrolytes (keeps the calf from dehydrating and provides energy).
The egg coats the stomach wall (and possibly provides some protein).
The bleach kills the scours bacteria.

I am fighting a case of scours, using standard methods, ie LA200, boluses, & electrolytes but was planning on trying the bleach treatment tomorrow if results were not forthcoming (he's back to nursing his ma late this evening, so maybe I'm over the hurdle). However, I'd still like to be prepared for the next time. A specific brand of bleach is listed which is not available in my area - what is this Javex Bleach? We can get Clorox & generic store brands, but not Javex. Thanks for any clarifications on the "type" of bleach recommended.
 

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I would be careful and not let the calf aspirate any of it. You will easily end up with pnuemonia instead of scours with a bleach formula.
 

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I am going to show my ignorance, but I am unfamiliar with the term Probios. Can someone explain, please----thanks
 

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stocky":32e9qoql said:
I am going to show my ignorance, but I am unfamiliar with the term Probios. Can someone explain, please----thanks

Probios is a paste that is designed to replace good bacterium, etc in the animals digestive system. It contains lactobacillus, acidophilus, and a lot of other good things, too. It can be purchased at any veterinary clinic that deals with large animals. Don't feel ignorant just because you have never heard of it, I'd be willing to bet there are a number of people right there with you. I had never heard of it til last summer, got introduced when we had a bull with stomach problems.
 

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old guys have used a lot of things (hydrated lime, whiskey, whiskey mixed with raw egg & others) i have used the wiskey & egg & it worked. they claim the whiskey cooks the egg in the gut & kills the bacteria, the cooked egg thickens the waste & comes out thick & guey. lots of the old cures work or they would not have been used & passed on
 

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I wish I had this recipe 2 weeks ago but I have it for next time. Sounds good to me worth a try since nothing else worked. Thanks

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Chuckie":2c6la1mr said:
Farminlund, let us know how this works. Sounds like it has worked for others.

From my cattle records database: "1 pt scours mix via bottle & 5 cc of LA200 in the field. 2PM - 3 pts kick-start (1 packet) & 2 boluses. 6PM nursing ok."

Never needed anymore assistance - went on & is doing just fine. That is the good news, the bad news is no report on bleach treatment for scours.
 

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I'm glad to hear that your calf cleared up and didn't need any further help. I do hope if someone else uses this remedy, that they post the results.
 

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