BLACK-BALDIES

[jaimefloresh]

best way to get a F1 black baldies

 

[dun]

Breed a quality Hereford to a quality blk Angus

 

[cmf1]

If it's hot where you are go for the F-2 super baldie.
Hereford X Brahma.
Then cover those girls with something black and little ear.

 

[alacattleman]

Breed a quality Hereford to a quality blk Angus

yep

 

[KNERSIE]

Depending on your environment it may be better to use an angus bull over hereford cows if your conditions isn't as good, if your conditions are more favourable it would probably make more sense to use a hereford bull over angus cows.

 

[WichitaLineMan]

DO mitochondrial DNA effects have any bearing on the "ideal" way to make a Hereford/Angus F-1?

 

[VanC]

If it's hot where you are go for the F-2 super baldie.
Hereford X Brahma.
Then cover those girls with something black and little ear.

Crossing a third breed with Hereford X Brahman F1s doesn't give you an F2. Sounds like a good idea anyway.

 

[jaimefloresh]

what will be a F2 TANKS

If it's hot where you are go for the F-2 super baldie.
Hereford X Brahma.
Then cover those girls with something black and little ear.

Crossing a third breed with Hereford X Brahman F1s doesn't give you an F2. Sounds like a good idea anyway.

 

[VanC]

what will be a F2 TANKS

If it's hot where you are go for the F-2 super baldie.
Hereford X Brahma.
Then cover those girls with something black and little ear.

Crossing a third breed with Hereford X Brahman F1s doesn't give you an F2. Sounds like a good idea anyway.

An F2 would be the result of crossing two F1s with the same breed makeup. In other words, if you cross an F1 Angus/Hereford with another F1 Angus/Hereford you get an F2 Angus/Hereford. At least that's how I understand it. Maybe someone smarter than me will come along and explain it better.

 

[MF135]

If it's hot where you are go for the F-2 super baldie.
Hereford X Brahma.
Then cover those girls with something black and little ear.

Crossing a third breed with Hereford X Brahman F1s doesn't give you an F2. Sounds like a good idea anyway.[/quote][/quote]

An F2 would be the result of crossing two F1s with the same breed makeup. In other words, if you cross an F1 Angus/Hereford with another F1 Angus/Hereford you get an F2 Angus/Hereford. At least that's how I understand it. Maybe someone smarter than me will come along and explain it better.[/quote]
That's the way it is. My favorite is Hereford bull on brangus cows. The real super baldie.

 

[cmf1]

Thanks for the correction Van.
F-1 x F-1 = F-2 Makes much more sense than my misinformed take on the crossing.
Super Baldies would then be a 3-way cross. ( a "Vic" akin to a "nick") ;-)

MF135,
I thought that the term "Super" referred to 1/4 Brahman influence for added heat tolerance.
No matter the color or prescription used to achieve it.
Red Super,
Yellow Super,
Black Super, etc.
All "real", all supers.
So is that just your favorite cross to get one or is this something else I am misinformed on?
As always I am more than willing to stand corrected.
I'm married with three teenage daughters. I live corrected. :lol2:

 

[dun]

Thanks for the correction Van.
F-1 x F-1 = F-2 Makes much more sense than my misinformed take on the crossing.
Super Baldies would then be a 3-way cross. ( a "Vic" akin to a "nick") ;-)

MF135,
I thought that the term "Super" referred to 1/4 Brahman influence for added heat tolerance.
No matter the color or prescription used to achieve it.
Red Super,
Yellow Super,
Black Super, etc.
All "real", all supers.
So is that just your favorite cross to get one or is this something else I am misinformed on?
As always I am more than willing to stand corrected.
I'm married with three teenage daughters. I live corrected. :lol2:

So Super Man was 1/4 Brahman?

 

[alacattleman]

super baldies are brangus/herefordX

 

[MF135]

super baldies are brangus/herefordX

Yessir. 3/16ths brahman, 5/16ths angus, and 1/2 hereford makes up the super baldie as I know it. I use the term to refer to black wf but I suppose they could be red wf as well. (red brangus)

 

[VanC]

super baldies are brangus/herefordX

Yessir. 3/16ths brahman, 5/16ths angus, and 1/2 hereford makes up the super baldie as I know it. I use the term to refer to black wf but I suppose they could be red wf as well. (red brangus)

That's the way I've always seen it, but apparently there's no hard and fast rule. Here's someone else's idea of the Super Baldy:

http://www.altenburgsuperbaldy.com/

 

[Idaman]

If it's hot where you are go for the F-2 super baldie.
Hereford X Brahma.
Then cover those girls with something black and little ear.

Crossing a third breed with Hereford X Brahman F1s doesn't give you an F2. Sounds like a good idea anyway.

[/quote]

An F2 would be the result of crossing two F1s with the same breed makeup. In other words, if you cross an F1 Angus/Hereford with another F1 Angus/Hereford you get an F2 Angus/Hereford. At least that's how I understand it. Maybe someone smarter than me will come along and explain it better.[/quote]
That's the way it is. My favorite is Hereford bull on brangus cows. The real super baldie.[/quote]


They are great as long as you don't forget and stand in the gate. :D

 

[haase]

Use a homo black & homo polled limousin bull on hereford cows.

 

[alftn]

Use a Hereford Bull on Black angus cows, that is a Black baldie, and nothing else......HEREFORD AND ANGUS

No milk breed crosses , or any of them Black Euro Conversions (Fake Angus) make TRUE BLACK BALDIES....

BLACK BALDIES HAVE BEEN AROUND LONGER THAN THOSE FAKE ANGUS.....SO THAT AINT WHERE THEY COME FROM....

 

[VanC]

Use a Hereford Bull on Black angus cows, that is a Black baldie, and nothing else......HEREFORD AND ANGUS

No milk breed crosses , or any of them Black Euro Conversions (Fake Angus) make TRUE BLACK BALDIES....

BLACK BALDIES HAVE BEEN AROUND LONGER THAN THOSE FAKE ANGUS.....SO THAT AINT WHERE THEY COME FROM....

What a bunch of hooey. I'll give you that most people, including me, are talking about Hereford and Angus when they say "black baldy". But the fact is anything that's black and has a white face can be called a black baldy, because that's exactly what it is. My uncle used to breed his Holstein heifers to Hereford bulls. He called those calves black baldies. Since he never got arrested I figure there ain't a law saying that black baldies can ONLY come form Hereford and Angus.

 

[alftn]

IN beef cattle production, Black Baldies means Hereford / angus cross...

Breeding holsteins heifers so they can have a small calf with a hereford and produce more beef is a good by product of the dariy end, but no way to be con fussed with a true beef animal Hereford /angus...

The F-1 black Baldies Hereford/angus are a very sought after brood stock, prehaps the best mother cows in the business..You can not say that about these other so called black baldies, even if you might pass some of them off as such...

I will say the super baldies, for hot climate are, a fine combo also....