AAOK
Well-known member
Just currious to see what everyone thinks of this heifer now, and then again in 2,3,4, or 5 weeks after I have her clipped and purdy. She is a Purebred Maine-Anjou, 6 months to the day in this picture. Let 'er rip!
ilfarmer92":18olkn20 said:in america maines are black... just as about every other cow ... i think she could be nice if you worked with her a bit.
Australian Cattleman":332jcl5u said:If only to see a red and white Maine Anjou. She'll look a lot different once she's clipped and fed up. Looks like an Angus or a black Galloway at the moment. Do you have any of the proper coloured MA's?
Australian Cattleman":2l6rp710 said:92.5% is a crossbred. Here in Australia you cannot show an animal unless its 100%. The only exception would be a breed that has been developed and is a registered breed. It still saddens me to see the traditional breeds being corrupted by the black mafia.
Australian Cattleman":3qp5urec said:92.5% is a crossbred. Here in Australia you cannot show an animal unless its 100%. The only exception would be a breed that has been developed and is a registered breed. It still saddens me to see the traditional breeds being corrupted by the black mafia.
ilfarmer92":28iv9onl said:Australian Cattleman":28iv9onl said:92.5% is a crossbred. Here in Australia you cannot show an animal unless its 100%. The only exception would be a breed that has been developed and is a registered breed. It still saddens me to see the traditional breeds being corrupted by the black mafia.
92.5% must be a crossbred in australia then. In america its purebred. Most associations allow "breeding up". Some like it some dont. It's each Breed Assoc. choice. Lets just say Im glad the AHA doesnt allow it ;-)
Australian Cattleman":3hwyui8i said:I'll be very sceptical about using US sires of some breeds if this is allowed. Seems like you have little chance of purchasing a true purebred or fullblood from the US or Canada. This very much saddens me. Hang in there the UK you may be our last saviour for true pure breeds and Australia.The Maine Anjou society must be pretty haphazardly run if they don't push to have the maximum amount of their breed. You can't call a 75% content animal an asset to instill the best of the breed in to the offspring.
ilfarmer92":jb9xztzp said:Australian Cattleman":jb9xztzp said:I'll be very sceptical about using US sires of some breeds if this is allowed. Seems like you have little chance of purchasing a true purebred or fullblood from the US or Canada. This very much saddens me. Hang in there the UK you may be our last saviour for true pure breeds and Australia.The Maine Anjou society must be pretty haphazardly run if they don't push to have the maximum amount of their breed. You can't call a 75% content animal an asset to instill the best of the breed in to the offspring.
This is just sad. I dont get why you are throwing a fit because some American Breed Associations allowing breeding up.
Killala":3r6u949e said:ilfarmer92":3r6u949e said:Australian Cattleman":3r6u949e said:I'll be very sceptical about using US sires of some breeds if this is allowed. Seems like you have little chance of purchasing a true purebred or fullblood from the US or Canada. This very much saddens me. Hang in there the UK you may be our last saviour for true pure breeds and Australia.The Maine Anjou society must be pretty haphazardly run if they don't push to have the maximum amount of their breed. You can't call a 75% content animal an asset to instill the best of the breed in to the offspring.
This is just sad. I dont get why you are throwing a fit because some American Breed Associations allowing breeding up.
:shock: :shock: :shock:
It's not 'breeding up', it's crossbreeding :x
What you're saying is just like what some people call 'line breeding'. And it's only called line breeding when it works.
cattlemom":1ooaoue4 said:Isn't it just about having good cattle? I really wouldn't care if one was purple as long as it has the traits I'm looking for.
chambero":3kdolmrs said:She looks like what a good heifer calf that isn't fattened up on too much creep feed is supposed to look like. We have a pasture full of them also. Somebody used to looking at fat show heifers wouldn't think they amounted to much, but they can make you money in many ways.
I don't understand what makes Austrailia the authority on cattle breeds. Or England for that matter. ;-) Americans tend to be on the practical side without worrying too much about proper lineage - bovine or human. So it should be no surprise that we select cattle on results.
Everything was a cross breed once upon a time. Breeds like Maine-Anjou et al do what is necessary to keep up with what the market demands. The very reason that you praise Herefords for not allowing any outside blood in is the very reason that you can't hardly find a pasture full of them anymore - they didn't keep up with the times. Angus can pretend all they want, but they have more than a little outside blood also. If you buy "commercial" angus from a big angus breeder you will find lots of individuals that have incorrect coloration markings show up.
AAOK - I bet know which bull you are talking about that would test Angus. He used to sire lots of good steers and one of his daughters with white legs raised the champion angus steer at Houston a couple of years ago. They would never admit it, but kudos to the Angus breeders for doing whatever they had to in order to get some muscling into their cattle relative to 20-30 years ago.
You can easily tell the difference between a "purebred" solid black Maine and an Angus. They are very distinctive breeds and in my opinion serve two very different functions.