D.R. Cattle
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Anyone using Balancer genetics?
D.R. Cattle":3f3u0u9v said:Anyone using Balancer genetics?
D.R. Cattle":1jzydqm5 said:Thanks Dun. Not that I am quick to act, but thoughts always cross the mind. My cows are all Braford, with Angus bulls on them. Only one exceptions, a Maine Angus F1 bull. The age old problem of yield AND quality. The Angus bulls throwing nice calves but smaller weaners. The Maine throwing very blocky calves, eventually large but slow to get there. For the time being, the Angus quality is bleeding through. Curiously I wonder how a black balancer would do on the seasoned Brafords, while keeping straight Angus on the heifers. I posted something a while back about composites from a ranch down here. Their composite is in exact proportions to what I would get if I put a balancer on board, with the exception of them using red angus as opposed to me trying it in black. Wonder if the black angus quality would still shine through with this type of bull sevicing?
D.R. Cattle":2lwc77qw said:I'm not well versed on the continental breeds. If Simm is good, then great. I would depend on a local supplier to fill that void with the bulls. I haven't heard of any Simm Angus breeders? I think the ideal situation would be for me to find the F1 semen, rather than buying the bull. Then retain the heifers, AI the originals again with different genetics and make my own bulls, etc. etc? Just thinking for the moment.
A. delaGarza":1ur44rtd said:ABS has a Black Simm-Angus bull, check with Amazed (his a registered member) maybe he could have some Red Simm-Angus bulls or semen for sale since he is a Simmental and Red Angus breeder in Canada.
D.R. Cattle":1ur44rtd said:I'm not well versed on the continental breeds. If Simm is good, then great. I would depend on a local supplier to fill that void with the bulls. I haven't heard of any Simm Angus breeders? I think the ideal situation would be for me to find the F1 semen, rather than buying the bull. Then retain the heifers, AI the originals again with different genetics and make my own bulls, etc. etc? Just thinking for the moment.
D.R. Cattle":1kff8xv2 said:I'm not well versed on the continental breeds. If Simm is good, then great. I would depend on a local supplier to fill that void with the bulls. I haven't heard of any Simm Angus breeders? I think the ideal situation would be for me to find the F1 semen, rather than buying the bull. Then retain the heifers, AI the originals again with different genetics and make my own bulls, etc. etc? Just thinking for the moment.
A. delaGarza":1tvlzb81 said:ABS has a Black Simm-Angus bull, check with Amazed (his a registered member) maybe he could have some Red Simm-Angus bulls or semen for sale since he is a Simmental and Red Angus breeder in Canada.
D.R. Cattle":1tvlzb81 said:I'm not well versed on the continental breeds. If Simm is good, then great. I would depend on a local supplier to fill that void with the bulls. I haven't heard of any Simm Angus breeders? I think the ideal situation would be for me to find the F1 semen, rather than buying the bull. Then retain the heifers, AI the originals again with different genetics and make my own bulls, etc. etc? Just thinking for the moment.
D.R. Cattle":1hn0jri6 said:Thanks. I would appreciate that information. Checked out the ABS site and all they are advertising right now is a Black SimmAngus. I checked out the stats on Pfred while I was there. Wow! Makes you wonder why you would add Continental blood if you had that performance from Angus?
Dav":3i5tjugq said:[quote :lol: ="D.R. Cattle"]Anyone using Balancer genetics?
dun":3is87gm2 said:Just cows. An the last of them will be heading down the road soon. Even though they were from mederate sized Gelbviehs and a smallish Red Angus bull, they turn out 1600 lb cows. But boy do they raise great calves when bred back to a Red Angus bull.
dun
D.R. Cattle":3is87gm2 said:Anyone using Balancer genetics?
Indiana Gary":y9vt6vle said:I've had Balancer cows that were a 5 frame and 1300 pounds. They are deep, wide bodies that milk well and raise dandy calves. Dun, if you were getting that big of females out of "moderate sized" Gelbviehs they must have had some really big framed animals not too far back in their pedigrees.
Granted 15 years ago it was more difficult to find a whole lot of true moderate framed Gelbviehs, but in the past several years many Gelbvieh producers have recognized the need to downsize and there are now lots of good Gelbvieh bulls available that are moderate framed and breed true, siring moderate framed, easy fleshing cattle consistently.
dun":y9vt6vle said:Just cows. An the last of them will be heading down the road soon. Even though they were from mederate sized Gelbviehs and a smallish Red Angus bull, they turn out 1600 lb cows. But boy do they raise great calves when bred back to a Red Angus bull.
dun
D.R. Cattle":y9vt6vle said:Anyone using Balancer genetics?