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clarkmorefarm

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Does anyone have any experience with Allen Gate & Panel in Prattsville, AR?

Looking for some corral panels and some other handling components.

Just looking if someone has first hand experience with them.
 
tsellars said:
All my panels, bow gates and sweep came from them. What you looking at?
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Looking at 6' heavy panels, 90 degree sweep system, palpation cage, and some walk through gates.

Working on designing my own load out chute and alley with a head gate.

You happy with the construction? Looks like the panels connect different then I'm used to on the old corral panels.
 
I’m not familiar with Allen Gate & Panel, but you while you’re looking, you should check with C&W Sales in Corbin, KY too. They carry lots of good quality gates, panels, etc. They sell quite a bit in our area in Northeast TN, and have trucks delivering in our area frequently.
 
clarkmorefarm said:
Looking at 6' heavy panels, 90 degree sweep system, palpation cage, and some walk through gates.

Working on designing my own load out chute and alley with a head gate.

You happy with the construction? Looks like the panels connect different then I'm used to on the old corral panels.
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I have no complaints. We have had our original panels close to 20 years and the only thing different from when we got them is that they aren’t as shiny.

Stating the obvious but the connections are easy as long as you are on somewhat level ground. We have never had an issue with a cow popping the pins out.

Only cow we have had get out of the 6ft panels was under it. She was by herself and riled up and she got her head underneath a panel in a low spot and basically just picked it up and crawled under it. Never had a cow go through or over…….famous last words.
 
A.J. said:
I'm not familiar with Allen Gate & Panel, but you while you're looking, you should check with C&W Sales in Corbin, KY too. They carry lots of good quality gates, panels, etc. They sell quite a bit in our area in Northeast TN, and have trucks delivering in our area frequently.
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I'll look into it. Looks like a lot of people also are dealers for Allen, but they're marked up.

The prices on Allen on there website are pretty reasonable.

https://www.allengateandpanel.com/
 
clarkmorefarm said:
Trying to work through the level ground spot, but that will be needed for any type of panels.
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The panels we use don't have to have real level ground. It's not a collar welded to a panel like those for the pin to go through. They just weld a triangle shaped loop the pin goes through. It allows quite a bit of movement.
 
Brute 23 said:
The panels we use don't have to have real level ground. It's not a collar welded to a panel like those for the pin to go through. They just weld a triangle shaped loop the pin goes through. It allows quite a bit of movement.
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Yes that the style I grew up using. I assume it's been around forever.

I don't know if most of the heavy style manufacturers still use that or not?
 
Their stuff looks to be made from tubing similar to EMT conduit. Panels made from galvanized thin wall tubing welded together. The "hinges" or joints are made from short sections of welded on heavier gauge pipe sized to accept a short piece of slightly smaller od thin wall tube with one end smashed down to flare it out so it does not just fall through. Line up 2 panels so that the hinges on one are above or below the hinge on the other and drop a "pin" in. Since the pins are a tight fit, the panels need to be fairly level. If not level, don't use their "pins". Just drop in a solid rod of a much smaller diameter (like rebar) with a 90 degree bend so it does not fall through. That will allow for way less than perfect level and alignment.

The straight panels are plenty heavy for most cattle and even more so if just 1 person is moving them. When you get into the pap cages and slide gates, those are a little lighter duty. Still good enough for most cattle, but not as heavy duty as the more expensive manufacturers.

Slide gates use a tube in a tube design for the sliding connection. One larger id tube sliding over a smaller od tube. Not a design with sealed bearings. Those systems with bearings can be much more HD and expensive. These sliders will need a squirt of silicone spray prior to use to be easy sliding.
 
simme said:
Their stuff looks to be made from tubing similar to EMT conduit. Panels made from galvanized thin wall tubing welded together. The "hinges" or joints are made from short sections of welded on heavier gauge pipe sized to accept a short piece of slightly smaller od thin wall tube with one end smashed down to flare it out so it does not just fall through. Line up 2 panels so that the hinges on one are above or below the hinge on the other and drop a "pin" in. Since the pins are a tight fit, the panels need to be fairly level. If not level, don't use their "pins". Just drop in a solid rod of a much smaller diameter (like rebar) with a 90 degree bend so it does not fall through. That will allow for way less than perfect level and alignment.

The straight panels are plenty heavy for most cattle and even more so if just 1 person is moving them. When you get into the pap cages and slide gates, those are a little lighter duty. Still good enough for most cattle, but not as heavy duty as the more expensive manufacturers.

Slide gates use a tube in a tube design for the sliding connection. One larger id tube sliding over a smaller od tube. Not a design with sealed bearings. Those systems with bearings can be much more HD and expensive. These sliders will need a squirt of silicone spray prior to use to be easy sliding.
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I've been wanting to buy a couple of their slide gates to use, I was wondering how they hold up. I bought a bunch of the 24' "portable" (not very easy to move by hand) panels from a guy out of Central TX, I think north of Waco that are pretty bulletproof for the main pen, They're made from 2 3/8 pipr and sucker rod. We built a 72 x 36 pen and divided it up and we've only had one actually try it and there was no issue in holding the cow in, they're almost 6' tall and we've sold the olympic high jumpers a while back so we haven't had any try to go over. I like the 10 and 12 foot "heavy duty" panels but we've had quite a few of those that are sitting over in a pile or have been used to patch a hole in a fence
 
simme said:
Their stuff looks to be made from tubing similar to EMT conduit. Panels made from galvanized thin wall tubing welded together. The "hinges" or joints are made from short sections of welded on heavier gauge pipe sized to accept a short piece of slightly smaller od thin wall tube with one end smashed down to flare it out so it does not just fall through. Line up 2 panels so that the hinges on one are above or below the hinge on the other and drop a "pin" in. Since the pins are a tight fit, the panels need to be fairly level. If not level, don't use their "pins". Just drop in a solid rod of a much smaller diameter (like rebar) with a 90 degree bend so it does not fall through. That will allow for way less than perfect level and alignment.

The straight panels are plenty heavy for most cattle and even more so if just 1 person is moving them. When you get into the pap cages and slide gates, those are a little lighter duty. Still good enough for most cattle, but not as heavy duty as the more expensive manufacturers.

Slide gates use a tube in a tube design for the sliding connection. One larger id tube sliding over a smaller od tube. Not a design with sealed bearings. Those systems with bearings can be much more HD and expensive. These sliders will need a squirt of silicone spray prior to use to be easy sliding.
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Great idea on the rebar as pins to connect the panels.

This setup wouldn't be moved and would be at a central location by my barn.

Allen's prices are better than any can find locally for the 90 degree sweep for example, it's $1,000 on their list, any I see around here are normally at least $1,500 and that doesn't include the slide gate that come with Allen's I don't believe.
 
Stonewall Joe said:
I've been wanting to buy a couple of their slide gates to use, I was wondering how they hold up. I bought a bunch of the 24' "portable" (not very easy to move by hand) panels from a guy out of Central TX, I think north of Waco that are pretty bulletproof for the main pen, They're made from 2 3/8 pipr and sucker rod. We built a 72 x 36 pen and divided it up and we've only had one actually try it and there was no issue in holding the cow in, they're almost 6' tall and we've sold the olympic high jumpers a while back so we haven't had any try to go over. I like the 10 and 12 foot "heavy duty" panels but we've had quite a few of those that are sitting over in a pile or have been used to patch a hole in a fence
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I have one slide gate. It works good for me and my budget for a small operation. Has held up fine for about 9 years. There is no latch on the slide gates. It is possible for an enterprising cow to slide/nose it open. If you absolutely need it to 100% remain closed, you would need to tie it with a rope or twine.
 
clarkmorefarm said:
Great idea on the rebar as pins to connect the panels.

This setup wouldn't be moved and would be at a central location by my barn.

Allen's prices are better than any can find locally for the 90 degree sweep for example, it's $1,000 on their list, any I see around here are normally at least $1,500 and that doesn't include the slide gate that come with Allen's I don't believe.
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I don't have a sweep and really never looked at one of theirs. Lots of people make low cost open sweeps and $1000 would be in the low cost category. A sheeted heavy duty sweep is way way more than that and much stronger. If you use a sweep, that is going to be one of the highest pressure points when working cattle.

Looking at pictures of their sweep, they are just one of their bow gates (one piece frame all around, top, sides, and bottom so the gate part does not sag) and short panels with the hinges welded on at an angle to form the curve of the sweep. Their pap cage is just made from 2 of their 26" walk through gates with some tubes welded on to space them out and some additional pieces in the right place to receive the handle piece to hold the doors open or closed.

Their products seem to be good value for the money. Galvanizing sometimes not the best in spots.
 
simme said:
I don't have a sweep and really never looked at one of theirs. Lots of people make low cost open sweeps and $1000 would be in the low cost category. A sheeted heavy duty sweep is way way more than that and much stronger. If you use a sweep, that is going to be one of the highest pressure points when working cattle.

Looking at pictures of their sweep, they are just one of their bow gates (one piece frame all around, top, sides, and bottom so the gate part does not sag) and short panels with the hinges welded on at an angle to form the curve of the sweep. Their pap cage is just made from 2 of their 26" walk through gates with some tubes welded on to space them out and some additional pieces in the right place to receive the handle piece to hold the doors open or closed.

Their products seem to be good value for the money. Galvanizing sometimes not the best in spots.
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Yep, agreed on all points. I know there are really good sweep systems out there and much better working equipment. With my small herd, it won't ever justify it.

I'm thinking the pap cage could be used to direct cattle from one alley 90 degrees to another. I know that is not their typical use, but I think it would work well. The "Y" they have doesn't look like the gate will open across the cage, just split them one direction to the other. I know rhe pap cage gate will open 90 degrees so you can enter and block any other cattle from coming in behind you.

I think Allen would be a good compromise for me as I have zero working facility now and have to have a chute to at least load cattle onto a trailer.

As far as the sweep, I've worked a lot cattle without one, but with my wife around and she has no experience with working cattle, thought it could be a little safer option with her helping out.

I'm working on a layout of it I'll share later today with a budget. Good snow day project.
 
clarkmorefarm said:
Yep, agreed on all points. I know there are really good sweep systems out there and much better working equipment. With my small herd, it won't ever justify it.

I'm thinking the pap cage could be used to direct cattle from one alley 90 degrees to another. I know that is not their typical use, but I think it would work well. The "Y" they have doesn't look like the gate will open across the cage, just split them one direction to the other. I know rhe pap cage gate will open 90 degrees so you can enter and block any other cattle from coming in behind you.

I think Allen would be a good compromise for me as I have zero working facility now and have to have a chute to at least load cattle onto a trailer.

I'm working on a layout of it I'll share later today with a budget. Good snow day project.
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Using the pap cage to divert would require the cows to make a 90 degree turn. Unless they are all calves, I don't think that will work. I saw one of their new Y splitter things at the feed store a while back. I scratched my head wondering how it worked, but just glanced at it.
 
simme said:
Using the pap cage to divert would require the cows to make a 90 degree turn. Unless they are all calves, I don't think that will work. I saw one of their new Y splitter things at the feed store a while back. I scratched my head wondering how it worked, but just glanced at it.
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Yeah I've been wondering that as well. I see the 90 & 45 degree turn for their alleys on the website and wondered what could actually fit through it.

I can change location of pap cage in layout and add a small bow gate instead, give more room for the turn. Then I could space alley a little wider for the turn there too.

I'm sure this will take trial and error to get right.
 
simme said:
I have one slide gate. It works good for me and my budget for a small operation. Has held up fine for about 9 years. There is no latch on the slide gates. It is possible for an enterprising cow to slide/nose it open. If you absolutely need it to 100% remain closed, you would need to tie it with a rope or twine.
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Is it an Allan?
 

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