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[Cow_Town]

Alice try real hard read a book or something and try to contribute something to the board other than your socailist views or smiley faces.

Not taking sides here, but thats funny.

 

[Ryder]

When I was in school a required course was Americanism vs. Communism. Americanism was synonymous with capitalism. Apparently a lot of people today don't know the difference.

If you go from capitalism to socialism, the next step is communism.
In the last years the liberals have taken us so far into socialism we cannot come out without a major economic cleansing. Do not confuse economic cleansing with a political cleansing. It is too late to change it at the ballot box.

America has gone from being the richest nation in the world to being the biggest debtor nation in the world. We are having a high old time on borrowed money. A lot of people believe the government can just "print money". The government doesn't print money, it borrows money.The time will come when the piper wants to be paid.

 

[Alice]

Reckon these CEO's are willing to turn up/down their thermostats in their 20,000 + sq. ft. homes...reckon they're willing to give up traveling in their private jets and yachts? I won't begrudge one of them anything, if they also try to make an effort...bwahahahahahahahahaha! Like that's gonna happen.

Alice

Where in here was one word brought up about socialism? Where in here was one word even implied about socialisam. Government was not mentioned...taxation was not mentioned. Salary caps and bonuses were not mentioned. Welfare was not mentioned. So how did socialism sprout from this?

CB, you told me I needed to read a book...I suggest you need to read words as they are written...not read something into words that are written.

Alice

 

[Caustic Burno]

When I was in school a required course was Americanism vs. Communism. Americanism was synonymous with capitalism. Apparently a lot of people today don't know the difference.

If you go from capitalism to socialism, the next step is communism.
In the last years the liberals have taken us so far into socialism we cannot come out without a major economic cleansing. Do not confuse economic cleansing with a political cleansing. It is too late to change it at the ballot box.

America has gone from being the richest nation in the world to being the biggest debtor nation in the world. We are having a high old time on borrowed money. A lot of people believe the government can just "print money". The government doesn't print money, it borrows money.The time will come when the piper wants to be paid.

Very true, we have several resident communist that post.

 

[Gate Opener]

Its not about what you make but how you manage it.
Seems funny that the people that have the most trouble managing it are the ones that whine the most.

I know a very old man who has done very well in life. I asked him what direction we should go, should we buy a business or what did he think we should do, ya know what is the secret to doing well? He looked straight at me and said its not how much you make it is how much you spend.

He duck tapes his hat and his furniture that is probably from the 50's has duck tape on it. His house is modest for todays standards and he tells me that he would be happy if it was half the size it is now.

He is a very nice man I might add.

 

[aplusmnt]

Reckon these CEO's are willing to turn up/down their thermostats in their 20,000 + sq. ft. homes...reckon they're willing to give up traveling in their private jets and yachts? I won't begrudge one of them anything, if they also try to make an effort...bwahahahahahahahahaha! Like that's gonna happen.

Alice

Where in here was one word brought up about socialism? Where in here was one word even implied about socialisam. Government was not mentioned...taxation was not mentioned. Salary caps and bonuses were not mentioned. Welfare was not mentioned. So how did socialism sprout from this?

CB, you told me I needed to read a book...I suggest you need to read words as they are written...not read something into words that are written.

Alice

Socialism came up when you made your above comment in defense of Frankie's Socialistic whining. Once you went into defense of her comments then you aligned your self with her social views of redistribution of wealth. You know the wanting to lesson their Salaries so she does not have to do with out, that is socialism.

Here is the full quote as you quoted it.

All true. But the oil companies weren't posting billions of dollars in profits and paying millions of dollars in bonuses to retiring CE Os back then either. It's greed, Caustic. Why should I (as an example for the common man) give up my comforts when oil company Execs are making millions?

As for Oil companies paying the CEO's big bonuses and Millions, if an employee of mine made me Billions I would give them a Big bonus also, wouldn't you?

Reckon these CEO's are willing to turn up/down their thermostats in their 20,000 + sq. ft. homes...reckon they're willing to give up traveling in their private jets and yachts? I won't begrudge one of them anything, if they also try to make an effort...bwahahahahahahahahaha! Like that's gonna happen.

Alice

 

[Alice]

For the life of me, I don't see anything in what Frankie wrote that promoted socialism.

Alice

 

[aplusmnt]

Its not about what you make but how you manage it.
Seems funny that the people that have the most trouble managing it are the ones that whine the most.

I know a very old man who has done very well in life. I asked him what direction we should go, should we buy a business or what did he think we should do, ya know what is the secret to doing well? He looked straight at me and said its not how much you make it is how much you spend.

He duck tapes his hat and his furniture that is probably from the 50's has duck tape on it. His house is modest for todays standards and he tells me that he would be happy if it was half the size it is now.

He is a very nice man I might add.

I have two uncles, one Cousin and one friend that are all multi Millionaires. And they all share some common traits. They all have nice homes and will drive nice but not new cars. They even will go on vacation. But they all pinch the pennies. You can hardly get them to go out and eat pizza to them it is wasteful when you can eat at home. They do not go see movies.

None of them wear the most expensive shoes but they dress nice. All three follow the saying of watch the pennies and the dollars will take care of themselves.

 

[Caustic Burno]

Its not about what you make but how you manage it.
Seems funny that the people that have the most trouble managing it are the ones that whine the most.

I know a very old man who has done very well in life. I asked him what direction we should go, should we buy a business or what did he think we should do, ya know what is the secret to doing well? He looked straight at me and said its not how much you make it is how much you spend.

He duck tapes his hat and his furniture that is probably from the 50's has duck tape on it. His house is modest for todays standards and he tells me that he would be happy if it was half the size it is now.

He is a very nice man I might add.

Very good advice from a very wise man. I make more a year in interest than I do on cattle.
Read a real interesting article from an economics professor said you could take every person in American give them 1000 dollars and Bill Gates would still be where he is and the guy living under the overpass would still be there.

 

[aplusmnt]

For the life of me, I don't see anything in what Frankie wrote that promoted socialism.

Alice

The below comment is a socialistic comment, she thinks she should not have to give up her comforts when the oil execs make so much money. What the oil executives make is no business of hers and has no relationship to her income.

If she does not want to give up her comforts then it is her responsibility to not be a victim and go out and make more money, save more money or spend less money. The answer to her problem of creature comforts is not related to how much of a bonus a business gives their CEO.

A socialist believes that no one person should make millions in bonuses and another have to turn the thermostat up to save on the electric bill. They believe the wealth should be distributed equally so they can have the same comforts as the Oil executive with out actually earning it themselves.

That is why her comment was a socialistic one! If she does not want to loose comforts, then earn more do not take from others as a solution to solve her problems.

It's greed, Caustic. Why should I (as an example for the common man) give up my comforts when oil company Execs are making millions?

 

[aplusmnt]

Its not about what you make but how you manage it.
Seems funny that the people that have the most trouble managing it are the ones that whine the most.

I know a very old man who has done very well in life. I asked him what direction we should go, should we buy a business or what did he think we should do, ya know what is the secret to doing well? He looked straight at me and said its not how much you make it is how much you spend.

He duck tapes his hat and his furniture that is probably from the 50's has duck tape on it. His house is modest for todays standards and he tells me that he would be happy if it was half the size it is now.

He is a very nice man I might add.

Very good advice from a very wise man. I make more a year in interest than I do on cattle.
Read a real interesting article from an economics professor said you could take every person in American give them 1000 dollars and Bill Gates would still be where he is and the guy living under the overpass would still be there.

Saw a documentary where they gave this homeless guy a briefcase with a $100,000 in it. The guy lived in a box under a bridge and the first thing he did when he got the 100,000 was buy a brand new decked out Dodge 4x4 pickup. Cost him almost 40,000 for the truck. They even offered him counseling on how to handle the money, but gave him the choice to follow it or do as he wanted.

It took like 6 months and he was living in a cardboard box again.

 

[Alice]

For the life of me, I don't see anything in what Frankie wrote that promoted socialism.

Alice

The below comment is a socialistic comment, she thinks she should not have to give up her comforts when the oil execs make so much money. What the oil executives make is no business of hers and has no relationship to her income.

If she does not want to give up her comforts then it is her responsibility to not be a victim and go out and make more money, save more money or spend less money. The answer to her problem of creature comforts is not related to how much of a bonus a business gives their CEO.

A socialist believes that no one person should make millions in bonuses and another have to turn the thermostat up to save on the electric bill. They believe the wealth should be distributed equally so they can have the same comforts as the Oil executive with out actually earning it themselves.

That is why her comment was a socialistic one! If she does not want to loose comforts, then earn more do not take from others as a solution to solve her problems.

It's greed, Caustic. Why should I (as an example for the common man) give up my comforts when oil company Execs are making millions?

Socialism: Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.

Nope, sorry, still don't see promoting socialism in any of Frankie's comments...but I gotta give it to ya'. You're trying hard to put it there.

Alice

 

[aplusmnt]

For the life of me, I don't see anything in what Frankie wrote that promoted socialism.

Alice

The below comment is a socialistic comment, she thinks she should not have to give up her comforts when the oil execs make so much money. What the oil executives make is no business of hers and has no relationship to her income.

If she does not want to give up her comforts then it is her responsibility to not be a victim and go out and make more money, save more money or spend less money. The answer to her problem of creature comforts is not related to how much of a bonus a business gives their CEO.

A socialist believes that no one person should make millions in bonuses and another have to turn the thermostat up to save on the electric bill. They believe the wealth should be distributed equally so they can have the same comforts as the Oil executive with out actually earning it themselves.

That is why her comment was a socialistic one! If she does not want to loose comforts, then earn more do not take from others as a solution to solve her problems.

It's greed, Caustic. Why should I (as an example for the common man) give up my comforts when oil company Execs are making millions?

Socialism: Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.

Nope, sorry, still don't see promoting socialism in any of Frankie's comments...but I gotta give it to ya'. You're trying hard to put it there.

Alice

Who do you think Frankie wants to do something about the Oil companies and their big profits? She can not do nothing about them the common man can not do anything. People like her want the Government to step in and put windfall taxes on them. Just as Hitlery has said she would do.

If you do not understand the broader scope of Socialism and those that embrace it then I suggest you do as Caustic said and read a book. You probably have some of them on your shelf, look up Karl Marx, surely you have read some of his work ;-) If not Frankie might be able to loan you a book or two of hers. :lol:

 

[Gate Opener]

Its not about what you make but how you manage it.
Seems funny that the people that have the most trouble managing it are the ones that whine the most.

I know a very old man who has done very well in life. I asked him what direction we should go, should we buy a business or what did he think we should do, ya know what is the secret to doing well? He looked straight at me and said its not how much you make it is how much you spend.

He duck tapes his hat and his furniture that is probably from the 50's has duck tape on it. His house is modest for todays standards and he tells me that he would be happy if it was half the size it is now.

He is a very nice man I might add.

Very good advice from a very wise man. I make more a year in interest than I do on cattle.
Read a real interesting article from an economics professor said you could take every person in American give them 1000 dollars and Bill Gates would still be where he is and the guy living under the overpass would still be there.

Saw a documentary where they gave this homeless guy a briefcase with a $100,000 in it. The guy lived in a box under a bridge and the first thing he did when he got the 100,000 was buy a brand new decked out Dodge 4x4 pickup. Cost him almost 40,000 for the truck. They even offered him counseling on how to handle the money, but gave him the choice to follow it or do as he wanted.

It took like 6 months and he was living in a cardboard box again.

I saw that show. If I remember right he gave alot away also. Gave the guy he used to sell recyclables to a new car. He was spending that money like there was no end to it. I was shaking my head.

Now I believe that if a person works hard or invents something or even inherits bookoodles of money that is great. If someone sits on their behind and nearly starves that is their problem. However, I cannot see how it is right to raise the price on something that everyone needs. In that kind of thinking why isn't it okay for the water companies to price water at $20 a gallon for an example or anything we really need. Why not charge 10 prices for it?

How can anyone making minimum wage make enough to buy a tank of gas and other things they need?

 

[Alice]

Who do you think Frankie wants to do something about the Oil companies and their big profits? She can not do nothing about them the common man can not do anything. People like her want the Government to step in and put windfall taxes on them. Just as Hitlery has said she would do.

If you do not understand the broader scope of Socialism and those that embrace it then I suggest you do as Caustic said and read a book. You probably have some of them on your shelf, look up Karl Marx, surely you have read some of his work ;-) If not Frankie might be able to loan you a book or two of his. :lol:

I have no idea who, or what, Frankie wants to do something about the Oil companies and their big profits...she has not said, at least in this thread. I refuse to put words in her mouth that she has not spoken.

As far as reading, I suggest you try to broaden you scope of reading material, just for the sake of making a sensible argument.

Alice

 

[Alice]

How can anyone making minimum wage make enough to buy a tank of gas and other things they need?

They can't...

Alice

 

[aplusmnt]

I cannot see how it is right to raise the price on something that everyone needs. In that kind of thinking why isn't it okay for the water companies to price water at $20 a gallon for an example or anything we really need. Why not charge 10 prices for it?

Even though it might be one day, currently water is not a commodity that the world is fighting for. Oil is. I do believe oil producers manipulate pricing. But I do not think it is as much as most people think. There truly is a global need for Oil that there was not 50 years ago.

We have outsourced so much work to China and India that their economies are booming. Just imagine a billion Chinese people that use to ride donkeys and bicycles that now have jobs and can afford to buy cars. I saw some really crazy statistics one day on a documentary about China. It was unbelievable how much resources they are sucking up now that they did not use to.

Just imagine if the Chinese never ate beef before, but all of a sudden 1 billion people decided they all wanted beef. That is 3 times the number of Americans. Could you imagine the drain it would put on the beef industry? To add 3 times the amount of consumers than the U.S. currently has?

We have created this problem our self, we have outsourced ourselves into this mess. They are sucking up, Oil, steel, wood, and pushing our prices up all because we outsource our jobs over there and help their economy.

That is why I say blame Wal-Mart as much as the oil companies, our desire for cheap VCR's and TV's is hurting us on the back side.

 

[aplusmnt]

How can anyone making minimum wage make enough to buy a tank of gas and other things they need?

They can't...

Alice

Everyone I know that makes minimum wage gets along fine. My son, his friends. all the teens at McDonald's or the Sonic.

I do not know any bread winners that make minimum wage, and I live in probably as cheap of an area anyone in the U.S. can live in.

Most all minimum wage jobs are teens or second jobs for adults or retired people.

And any body that is supporting a family on Minimum wage I personally extend an invitation to come work for me at over $10.00 and hour (I pay some 15-16 year olds $7.00 an hour). And if you do not want to be a Janitor I will give you a list of 5 companies you can go to work for tomorrow making twice minimum.

In other words, anyone working for minimum trying to support a family on it, is not motivated and not out looking for other work. I live in one of if not the highest unemployment rated counties in KS and I can get a person willing to work tomorrow twice minimum.

 

[john250]

Just imagine if the Chinese never ate beef before, but all of a sudden 1 billion people decided they all wanted beef. That is 3 times the number of Americans. Could you imagine the drain it would put on the beef industry? To add 3 times the amount of consumers than the U.S. currently has?

I dreamed this last night. Might be a strain, but I'll take it. :lol:

 

[Caustic Burno]

Its not about what you make but how you manage it.
Seems funny that the people that have the most trouble managing it are the ones that whine the most.

I know a very old man who has done very well in life. I asked him what direction we should go, should we buy a business or what did he think we should do, ya know what is the secret to doing well? He looked straight at me and said its not how much you make it is how much you spend.

He duck tapes his hat and his furniture that is probably from the 50's has duck tape on it. His house is modest for todays standards and he tells me that he would be happy if it was half the size it is now.

He is a very nice man I might add.

Very good advice from a very wise man. I make more a year in interest than I do on cattle.
Read a real interesting article from an economics professor said you could take every person in American give them 1000 dollars and Bill Gates would still be where he is and the guy living under the overpass would still be there.

Saw a documentary where they gave this homeless guy a briefcase with a $100,000 in it. The guy lived in a box under a bridge and the first thing he did when he got the 100,000 was buy a brand new decked out Dodge 4x4 pickup. Cost him almost 40,000 for the truck. They even offered him counseling on how to handle the money, but gave him the choice to follow it or do as he wanted.

It took like 6 months and he was living in a cardboard box again.

I saw that show. If I remember right he gave alot away also. Gave the guy he used to sell recyclables to a new car. He was spending that money like there was no end to it. I was shaking my head.

Now I believe that if a person works hard or invents something or even inherits bookoodles of money that is great. If someone sits on their behind and nearly starves that is their problem. However, I cannot see how it is right to raise the price on something that everyone needs. In that kind of thinking why isn't it okay for the water companies to price water at $20 a gallon for an example or anything we really need. Why not charge 10 prices for it?

How can anyone making minimum wage make enough to buy a tank of gas and other things they need?

Water is almost 20 bucks a gallon see people buying it everyday 1.25 for a 16 oz bottle.
Driving an autombile is a privaledge not a right as many Americans have come to believe.
If you are making minimum wage in this country its your own fault get an education or in a trade school plenty of free money floating around if you want to better yourself.