Whole corn and ADM Beef trate

[Sheisgonnakillme]

I can't seem to find Beef Trate anywhere and the ADM site dealer locator is worthless!!

 

[Sedgefield]

I guess I'd lucked out. It gave me the name of four or five people within 50 miles of me. Three no response, one said he could order it for me, and one of them about 20 mi away from me is a cattle farmer and use it on his own farm, keep some in stock.

 

[Sedgefield]

I disagree with raising the protein at this stage.
700# and under, need about 14% ration. Your horse hay must be pretty high protein. Protein builds/grows FRAME. Carbs (corn) build the fat. Cattle for breeding or butcher, only need a ration of about 12% protein by 800#. 1000# only needs 10-11%.
IF you are trying to FINISH them for butcher, I would not be pushing protein.

63 days to butcher date. Hope they're big enough by then. Most days they gobble up 30 lbs of grain feed, corn and beef trate in 30 to 45 min. Once every week or two they'll only eat half of it by mid afternoon? I think they're looking good, what says you?

 

[Sedgefield]

I thought about your previous advice when I did my weekly mix for my Hanan automatic feeder last week. I appreciate all your advice. Thank you again for sharing your experiences of what works best.

I started way too soon, all my steers are just now 24 months old, f1 wagyu brangus, they all look about 1400+ pounds so I am more carb centric at this phase per your advice.

I switched to only using 2 parts cracked corn (b/c my feeder can't handle whole corn) and 1 part whole oats ( plus 20 acres of rye grass, hay and middle Texas forage)

90 pounds of grain for 3 steers a day; 30 pounds each. Figured out adding the oats made it a complete meal with the trifecta of everything protein, fat and a lion's share of carbs. Oats can add the other nutrients while still delivering 60% carb. But oats are too spendy at $16.50 for a 50# bag and my cracked corn is now $11.50 per 50#s that's a lot of difference. I highly doubt I will get my money back from what I spent. Next time I will start feeding no sooner than 24 months instead of harvesting at 24 months. and target 28-36 months for that breed.. however I am switching to Wagyu/beef master F1s for the next few years

Monday, I will harvest just one fat and happy steer that has to really struggle getting up off the ground, b/c he is too big. Once I get a picture of his rib eye, I will post here that pic of the marbling and decide if I keep feeding or try to then to start selling the meat on the last 2 steers.

63 days to go. Hope they're ready. What say you?

 

[Sedgefield]

If you can get them to 1000lb by mid May your doing a great job. Its doable because thats 3.5lb a day or slightly less. If you feed to when you start seeing fat cover as described above they should be great eating. Again i love jersey for beef.

63 days to go. What say you?

 

[SBMF 2015]

63 days to go. What say you?

Maybe the Simmental looking one. That dark one has a long way to go.
I would say 90 and 120 -150 days is more like it.

 

[Sedgefield]

Maybe the Simmental looking one. That dark one has a long way to go.
I would say 90 and 120 -150 days is more like it.

10-4. Thanks for the info.

 

[Jeanne - Simme Valley]

Difficult for me to give you any opinion. They are way too dairy looking/muscling. They look emaciated to me, but I only deal with heavy muscled Simmental cattle.

 

[Sedgefield]

Difficult for me to give you any opinion. They are way too dairy looking/muscling. They look emaciated to me, but I only deal with heavy muscled Simmental cattle.

I'll see how they turn out in 62 days. They Were a couple of stragglers left over at the end of the sale. Price was right. They're eating about 15 lbs of corn/feed mix and 10 lbs of high quality horse hay a day each. I give them feed till they won't eat anymore in 45 min and bump it up when they don't leave any.

 

[Sedgefield]

29 days to go. Eating 45 to 60 lbs of grain and 7 to 10 lbs of hay per day.

 

[SBMF 2015]

29 days to go. Eating 45 to 60 lbs of grain and 7 to 10 lbs of hay per day. View attachment 57293View attachment 57294

Not gonna make it. 60-90 is what they need.

 

[Sedgefield]

Wow, I never had any idea that they would eat 5% of their body weight and grain a day. I guess I'm going to hopefully have a lot of good hamburger meat. Was hoping for a few good steaks.

 

[M.Magis]

Wow, I never had any idea that they would eat 5% of their body weight and grain a day. I guess I'm going to hopefully have a lot of good hamburger meat. Was hoping for a few good steaks.

Are you saying they're eating 45-60 lbs of feed EACH? That would be about 5%, but I have to assume thats the amount they're eating combined. If so, they're eating between 2-3% feed. Your steaks will likely be fine, just with less marbling than if they were finished.

 

[Sedgefield]

Yes, 45 one day 55 to 60 the next for the two of them. With 2 lbs of adm beef trate and 7 ish lbs of hay. I now feed twice a day, the morning mix has the beef trate and the afternoon blend has none. They sniff the beef trate blend and eat it over an hour. The afternoon mix they gobble up in 15 min.

 

[Sedgefield]

Hay comes mid day if possible.

 

[Bunny]

I can't seem to find Beef Trate anywhere and the ADM site dealer locator is worthless!!

I can't seem to find Beef Trate anywhere and the ADM site dealer locator is worthless!!

Could U please tell me more about the Beef Trate . What is it? thankyou BUNNY

 

[Sedgefield]

Do a Google search for Archer Daniels Midland beef trate. Tons of info and even some videos.

 

[Bunny]

Do a Google search for Archer Daniels Midland beef trate. Tons of info and even some videos.

Thankyou