Whats The Next Breed?

[MikeC]

The two breeds that are coming back the strongest here I would say is Brangus, or Char cows with a Hereford bull. Seeing alot more Herfs in the last few years. The commericial guy here is going after the super baldie or high yellows.

Have sold a few Char bulls this year to Hereford cow owners.

Hard to beat those "Buckskin" calves.

 

[vs_cattle]

Char & Char Cross Cattle Will Always Be Around What Im Wondering Is Will Charolais Ever Be On Top Again Is It Possibe. In History Has A Breed Or Breeds Go From The Top To The Bottom To The Top Again?

 

[Limomike]

Your right about that caustic. You can build a fire in a hurry with them. I cross Beefmasters on mine and really like the attitude adjustment.

This is about the best way to get those Brangus to calm down. Beefmasters known for doing that. I agree, Brangus is here to stay.

 

[Badlands]

I don't know in the deeper South where they need the Bos Inducus influence.

Gelbvieh don't stand a chance, they simply don't have the leadership anymore to get there. They lost it when Schiefelbein left.

Red Angus and Simmental. Hereford might see some nice resurgence, but won't "dominate".

Angus isn't going to leave the top spot though.

SimAngus, Balancers, LimFlex, etc will continue to be the fastest growing marketshare.

Badlands

 

[Northern Rancher]

Actually the next breed is just being developed up north here-we are taking select germplasm from the largest male black bears we can find and combining it with dna from highly maternal black baldy cows. The cross from this will be be a high marbling cow with unsurpassed mothering instinct. The best part is that they will hiubernare in late Oct. and not emerge till late April just before calving. The savings in cost of production will be incredible.

 

[Frankie]

Actually the next breed is just being developed up north here-we are taking select germplasm from the largest male black bears we can find and combining it with dna from highly maternal black baldy cows. The cross from this will be be a high marbling cow with unsurpassed mothering instinct. The best part is that they will hiubernare in late Oct. and not emerge till late April just before calving. The savings in cost of production will be incredible.

:lol: :lol:

 

[ALACOWMAN]

I don't know in the deeper South where they need the Bos Inducus influence.

Gelbvieh don't stand a chance, they simply don't have the leadership anymore to get there. They lost it when Schiefelbein left.

Red Angus and Simmental. Hereford might see some nice resurgence, but won't "dominate".

Angus isn't going to leave the top spot though.

SimAngus, Balancers, LimFlex, etc will continue to be the fastest growing marketshare.

Badlands

your post makes sence. im slowly shifting to a all brangus herd. but they aint gonna take the world by storm or be the next best thing. but their great cattle and do well in the south . but they have their limitations

 

[skcatlman]

Badlands - I don't know what it is like down there but up here good cattle find a market no matter what breed it may take a while but it happens. Although losing a good promoter in a breed hurts, good cattle will keep the commercial breeder coming back. Every breed has their time on the throne and angus has been there for a while and at least in my area their time is coming to an end and simms are coming back and Gv are coming on. From what commercial cattlemen are telling me they think they have used too much angus and the performance is dropping off and they can see it in the bottom line, they want more weaning weight so they are going back to simms and are trying Gv bulls to get more pounds.

 

[VanC]

Char & Char Cross Cattle Will Always Be Around What Im Wondering Is Will Charolais Ever Be On Top Again Is It Possibe. In History Has A Breed Or Breeds Go From The Top To The Bottom To The Top Again?

I like Chars. I know they were very popular 30 or so years ago and are making a comeback now, but I don't remember them ever being "on top" like Herefords once were and like Angus are now. Somebody enlighten me.

 

[MikeC]

Char & Char Cross Cattle Will Always Be Around What Im Wondering Is Will Charolais Ever Be On Top Again Is It Possibe. In History Has A Breed Or Breeds Go From The Top To The Bottom To The Top Again?

I like Chars. I know they were very popular 30 or so years ago and are making a comeback now, but I don't remember them ever being "on top" like Herefords once were and like Angus are now. Somebody enlighten me.

Back when I was working for ABS in the late 60's-early 70's, the Char bulls were the hottest thing going.

But many people abused them by breeding those little 700-800 lb cows to these big Full French monsters and started having calving problems.

We could see it coming from a mile off. Many times back then when I refused to AI someones young heifers to the Chars in our tank, I was cussed and discussed.

There was no data on BW's nor EPD's for calving, but they didn't care.

All of a sudden.....the Chars were "Cow Killers". :mad: :mad:

 

[DOC HARRIS]

Actually the next breed is just being developed up north here-we are taking select germplasm from the largest male black bears we can find and combining it with dna from highly maternal black baldy cows. The cross from this will be be a high marbling cow with unsurpassed mothering instinct. The best part is that they will hiubernare in late Oct. and not emerge till late April just before calving. The savings in cost of production will be incredible.

NR - Throw in a "Polled Moose" in this Cross, and the resulting heifer will be "ONE MEAN MOTHER!"

DOC HARRIS

 

[manaftergodsheart413]

I think that beefmaster will be the next up and coming breed in the industry for the fact that they are very feed efficient and they'll turn a lil bit of supplement mainly grass into a lot of IMF.The cows milk very well and as a whole they have extremely good weaning weights and they will out perform most breeds in a lot of areas in more than just southern states and you can say what ever you want about chars but their birth weight are terrible and I dont care if they didn't have epd's for birth weights why use a bull that you cant breed both heifers and cows to without sacrificing performance or worrying about pulling calves.I could go on all day long about how beefmaster will rise to the top in the 5 to 10 years but the six essentials for the breed speaks for us.Please correct me on this but in the object of the cattle business to spend the least and make the most and you tell me which is the best for that and it certainly isn't chars by themselves

 

[Northern Rancher]

Adding moose might mongrelize the cross lol.

 

[DOC HARRIS]

Adding moose might mongrelize the cross lol.

:lol: :lol: :? :lol2: :dunce:

DOC HARRIS

 

[Jovid]

( Charolais had there time, Polled Herefords had some time, many others, today it is Black Angus due to many reasons data bases and so on)
What breed is gonna go to the top and why

It will be were the money is and who is pushing the shows and the cattlemen will follow the piper.

There are three essential breeds to the US beef industry that will always perform thats the Hereford Angus and Brammer.

IMO the best cow out there is a Brangus if they could get the attitude problems culled.

You need to add some Red Poll in there to calm those girls down.

 

[houstoncutter]

I know what I would like to see. Brahman crossed with a Gelbvieh. I have a few of these animals, and they really make a fine animal. Good disposition, hardiness, and those suckers raise a huge calf

 

[cattleluvr18]

herefords will rule again!! im just jokin i dont think that they will be makin a comback anytime soon

here in nebraska there is no Brahman, Gelbvieh, or Beefmaster that i have seen. and there is very little Sim, Balancers and chars. everybody has angus. i know nebraska isnt too powerful in the top cattle industry but to be on top wouldnt they have to be litterally everywhere acrost the country just like angus? please correct me if i am wrong.

 

[oakcreekfarms]

I would say the out look for polled herefords or herefords in general looks great. I don't think black cattle are going anywhere, therefore there is a huge market for our bulls. I don't think gelbvieh are going to do much, there isn't a big enough market for the females. Simmies look good, red angus should do very well, and angus will continue to do well

 

[vs_cattle]

do you think these other black hided cattle will catch up with Angus?

 

[Victoria]

In this area top spot is Red Angus and I don't think that will end anytime soon. They have what is needed here. They have good growth, good mothers, all the things that everyone looks for who is in cattle but most importantly they can handle the cold. They are one of the few breeds that have such tough newborns. Love those babies that can be born at -30 and are up playing and drinking in a couple of minutes instead of lying there complaining it is too cold and they want to die. The disposition is good and the calves are born a little smaller. Two important factors since more and more women are taking care of the cattle. More men I know will put up with a high headed cow than women. Add on to that the fact that they sell the best at the auction market and you have a winner!
As the cows around here are losing the Char or Simm. influence and becoming more and more Red Angus there are people who are wondering if the commercial cattleman will want to buy a bull of a different breed for a few years and it seems that they believe the next breed will be Simm. for getting a cross with the Red Angus cow. Personally I disagree. I am not trying to trash Simm. but the disposition is not as good in the bulls as the Red Angus and the calves are born bigger and stupider. There are a bunch of women and men over 65 dealing with these animals and they don't want to deal with these kinds of problems in my opinion.