What do you think

[Caustic Burno]

After this summer, I think you will see producers look at using more red or yellow cows for heat adaptation. They can do like Caustic and use a black bull for black calves.

From my personal observation at several EastTexas sales, the yellow calves bring as much or more per pound than black ones.

I will second this. Yellow Baldies bring top dollar here every time( Char/Hereford cross).

 

[Kingfisher]

Angus is what you see on the menus in all the stores or resturants

More like any cow colored black who has an ancient ancester that was an angus is what you see on the menus. A marketing ploy done right is what it is. lol There is some truth to that. I would to see some thesis papers from young college men or woman on how they see Angus from a school like Texas Tech or TCU ranching or marketing schools.

I think I will use a Hereford < like them more than angus lol > on my Braunveih cows and have some brown white face F1's.

I was looking for a couple of nice Hereford mama cows. The neighbors all have black bulls.

 

[vclavin]

"Holstien can be marketed as Angus just needs 51 % black hide." I think it has to grade choice also for CAB.

It still makes me laugh that one of my registered Red Angus cannot be called "Certified Angus Beef" even if it grades prime, but one of my registered black Sim's can be called " Certified Angus Beef" if it just grades choice. So much for truth in advertising.

Dairy breeds can't be CAB.
Valerie

 

[Caustic Burno]

"Holstien can be marketed as Angus just needs 51 % black hide." I think it has to grade choice also for CAB.

It still makes me laugh that one of my registered Red Angus cannot be called "Certified Angus Beef" even if it grades prime, but one of my registered black Sim's can be called " Certified Angus Beef" if it just grades choice. So much for truth in advertising.

Dairy breeds can't be CAB.
Valerie

Don't kid yourself there is a dollar involved here. Every store or resturuant advertises Angus beef, there is not enough Angus in the country to fill that bill. Been a many a Brangus or Super baldie that went to cab. I actually believe you could take a camel and die it black and run it through the salebarn for cab. Maybe they have black camels now as every other breed has used Angus genetics to turn black.

 

[Gale Seddon]

Might want to look into raising camels. :lol:
Here are the camel prices from the Lolli Bros. Exotic Sale this past April. :o

CAMELS
Dromedary M 2700.00-8500.00 F 4250.00-9000.00
Bactrian M 3000.00-18500.00 F 13500.00-21000.00

 

[vclavin]

"Holstien can be marketed as Angus just needs 51 % black hide." I think it has to grade choice also for CAB.

It still makes me laugh that one of my registered Red Angus cannot be called "Certified Angus Beef" even if it grades prime, but one of my registered black Sim's can be called " Certified Angus Beef" if it just grades choice. So much for truth in advertising.

Dairy breeds can't be CAB.
Valerie

Don't kid yourself there is a dollar involved here. Every store or resturuant advertises Angus beef, there is not enough Angus in the country to fill that bill. Been a many a Brangus or Super baldie that went to cab. I actually believe you could take a camel and die it black and run it through the salebarn for cab. Maybe they have black camels now as every other breed has used Angus genetics to turn black.

CAB has become extremely popular because of certain characteristics, I guess if a black camel can pass the test ... it must be good to eat- LOL I wonder if the black cats hanging around here ...hmmm... :lol2:
Valerie

 

[dun]

Don't kid yourself there is a dollar involved here. Every store or resturuant advertises Angus beef, there is not enough Angus in the country to fill that bill. Been a many a Brangus or Super baldie that went to cab. I actually believe you could take a camel and die it black and run it through the salebarn for cab. Maybe they have black camels now as every other breed has used Angus genetics to turn black.

Not all angus beef is CAB. There are a dozen or more branding programs that include the word angus in their title.
Most of them use the following guideline which has nothing to do with quality

Taken from:
SCHEDULE GLA--NOVEMBER 1996
USDA SPECIFICATION FOR CHARACTERISTICS OF CATTLE ELIGIBLE
FOR APPROVED BEEF PROGRAMS CLAIMING ANGUS INFLUENCE

2.2 Phenotype. Cattle eligible for certification in Angus influence beef programs based on phenotype (appearance) must be predominately (51 percent) solid black. Blue roan, gray, etc., are not considered to be black or a percentage of black. Such variations can qualify only when it occupies 49 percent, or less, of the body area with the remaining 51 percent, or greater, being solid black. 1/ Angus influence cattle may be either horned or polled. Carcasses of certified live animals which display certain non-Angus characteristics (e.g.; dairy conformation, Brahman humps) shall be excluded as specified in the carcass specifications for approved programs.

USDA SPECIFICATION FOR CERTIFICATION OF BEEF CARCASS
QUALITY AND YIELD CHARACTERISTICS OF OFFICIALLY GRADED BEEF
This specification is for certification by an Agricultural Marketing Service (AMS) agent of
U.S. Prime and Choice steer and heifer beef carcasses which: (a) are derived from cattle that
meet the phenotypic or genotypic (AngusSource®) requirements of the USDA Specification for
Characteristics of Cattle Eligible for Approved Beef Programs Claiming Angus Influence (GLA),
and (b) meet the following set of requirements:
1. Marbling score of:
a. Master Chef – Modest or higher;
2. Must meet the requirements for overall A maturity in the U.S. grade it qualifies for;
3. Medium or fine marbling texture;
4. Practically free (not detracting from visual quality) of capillary rupture in the ribeye
muscle;
5. Moderately thick or thicker muscling and tend to be moderately wide and thick in
relation to their length; and
6. No hump exceeding 2 inches in height.

That's the reason there is so much "angus" labled beef!