What bull over Gertz cows

[Newrancher2020]

I recently sold my bull and am looking to put a new bull on my cows. I was thinking red angus, or char. What's y'all's thought last or is there a better bull to use.

 

[Brute 23]

I recently sold my bull and am looking to put a new bull on my cows. I was thinking red angus, or char. What's y'all's thought last or is there a better bull to use.

Different jobs require different tools. What is you goal? Do you want freezer beef, sell at the AB, females, etc?

Also, you may want to add your location as that will also play a major role in what would be a good option.

 

[Travlr]

Location, location, location...

 

[Warren Allison]

I recently sold my bull and am looking to put a new bull on my cows. I was thinking red angus, or char. What's y'all's thought last or is there a better bull to use.

If you would go into your profile and add your location, you will get better responses. If you are in the south, then Brangus. If not then homo for black and polled black Simm, black Simangus or Angus. If you like red, the best calves I have seen this year were from a registered herd of Santa Gertudis cows and Red Brangus cows, by a registered red Charolais bull. Best I have seen so far of any color.

 

[Newrancher2020]

Different jobs require different tools. What is you goal? Do you want freezer beef, sell at the AB, females, etc?

Also, you may want to add your location as that will also play a major role in what would be a good option.

Looking to sale AB but also may keep a few replacement heifers

 

[Newrancher2020]

If you would go into your profile and add your location, you will get better responses. If you are in the south, then Brangus. If not then homo for black and polled black Simm, black Simangus or Angus. If you like red, the best calves I have seen this year were from a registered herd of Santa Gertudis cows and Red Brangus cows, by a registered red Charolais bull. Best I have seen so far of any color.

Never saw a red Charolais

 

[Travlr]

I recently sold my bull and am looking to put a new bull on my cows. I was thinking red angus, or char. What's y'all's thought last or is there a better bull to use.

@Warren Allison is right... black calves sell for more money. If you can get good prices for calves with ear and extra skin I'd go with a black Brangus. If you'd do better with some meat on the calves, a black Limousin or Simmental.

 

[Brute 23]

Looking to sale AB but also may keep a few replacement heifers

If they are going to be sold at the AB then location will play a huge factor.

 

[BC]

You can breed a Gert a lot of different ways and get a market acceptable calf. Here are some different crosses.

 

[Warren Allison]

Never saw a red Charolais

 

[Brute 23]

So a Red Char is a Limousine

Marketing at its finest. Guess they learned from the Black Herefords.

 

[Warren Allison]

So a Red Char is a Limousine

Marketing at its finest. Guess they learned from the Black Herefords.

ROFLMAO! Have you ever heard the old saying" It is better to keep silent and have people think you are ignorant, than to speak and remove all doubt?". They are nothing at all like Black Herefords or black Lims or Black Gelbs or black Simms, etc, that have had Angus blood introduced. Charolais first became recognized in the 800's AD in a region of France carrying that name. Since their beginning, Charolais have always been red cattle. They can carry a mutant dilute gene, and an animal carrying that gene will be cream, light tan etc, colored. When two of these mated, and a calf inherited 2 copies of the gene....a double dilute....the animal is white. Starting in the 1930's , with the rise of Hitler and the Nazi's, a concerted effort was made in Germany and German-occupied European countries to breed out the red color, and only have white cattle. But in European countries not under German rule, the red Charolais thrived. Plenty of them in Europe now, and a lot in Canada as well. There are concerted efforts to reverse the NAzi trend, and breed Charolais with no dilute gene. So sorry, but this nothing like the "black" british and continental cattle today. Red Charolais are 100% Charolais, no different than white ones or tan/creamy ones. As a matter of fact the white Charolais in America have Brahma DNA in their gene pool. Red Charolais are no better, nor any worse, than a dilute Charolais. They are all Charolais.

 

[Travlr]

ROFLMAO! Have you ever heard the old saying" It is better to keep silent and have people think you are ignorant, than to speak and remove all doubt?".

If anyone on the forum should be wary of casting that stone... you might want to consider where that stone might land.

 

[Brute 23]

If anyone on the forum should be wary of casting that stone... you might want to consider where that stone might land.

I didn't even read past the first two lines.

 

[Travlr]

I didn't even read past the first two lines.

You might want to. He's not wrong about the cattle. I just think it's an odd turn considering who threw it out there.

 

[Brute 23]

You might want to. He's not wrong about the cattle. I just think it's an odd turn considering who threw it out there.

I don't listen to liars.

 

[Brute 23]

ROFLMAO! Have you ever heard the old saying" It is better to keep silent and have people think you are ignorant, than to speak and remove all doubt?". They are nothing at all like Black Herefords or black Lims or Black Gelbs or black Simms, etc, that have had Angus blood introduced. Charolais first became recognized in the 800's AD in a region of France carrying that name. Since their beginning, Charolais have always been red cattle. They can carry a mutant dilute gene, and an animal carrying that gene will be cream, light tan etc, colored. When two of these mated, and a calf inherited 2 copies of the gene....a double dilute....the animal is white. Starting in the 1930's , with the rise of Hitler and the Nazi's, a concerted effort was made in Germany and German-occupied European countries to breed out the red color, and only have white cattle. But in European countries not under German rule, the red Charolais thrived. Plenty of them in Europe now, and a lot in Canada as well. There are concerted efforts to reverse the NAzi trend, and breed Charolais with no dilute gene. So sorry, but this nothing like the "black" british and continental cattle today. Red Charolais are 100% Charolais, no different than white ones or tan/creamy ones. As a matter of fact the white Charolais in America have Brahma DNA in their gene pool. Red Charolais are no better, nor any worse, than a dilute Charolais. They are all Charolais.

First of all... in was a joke.

Secondly... see below.

Will the real Warren Allison…

"That's" what they all say. It's kinda like a fart. He who 1st smelt it, dealt it. Yall might be surprised who thinks all ratethis mischief is 'ok' and just good fun.... and who does not. I wouldn't know how to create multiple accounts and even if I did, I would never in a million years be...

www.cattletoday.com

 

[Warren Allison]

I don't listen to liars.

RTOFLMAO! Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!!! Well, good to know you don't talk to yourself!

 

[Brute 23]

RTOFLMAO! Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!!! Well, good to know you don't talk to yourself!

What have I lied about?

 

[Brute 23]

Relations with women and all the moving parts don't count... thats typical guy stuff.