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The main chicken company in this area (small compared to the national companies) updated their processing lines a few years ago. Well prior to covid and covid money. Reason then was same as stated in this Tyson article - that they were having trouble getting enough workers to staff the processing lines. During the upgrades, they placed fewer chickens in the houses and increased the downtime between flock placements. Resulting in less money for the growers during that time.
Sixty or 80 years ago, lots of work was completely manual. Very little automation. Seems like we had plenty of workers then. We have automated quite a bit since then and seem to have a bigger shortage of workers than ever.
 
As an employer, it's not the shortage of workers thats the problem. I'm sure there are plenty of workers out there but they just simply choose not to work thanks to the welfare state we have created. We used to have 60-65 local employees and now we have less than 15 local employees and 35 H2A Hispanic employees that actually "want" to work. The H2A's haven't displaced any of the locals because if it wasn't for them we wouldn't be able to stay in business. And before anyone unloads on me about Hispanics, please do your homework about the H2A program thru the Department of Labor.
 
sassafras manor said:
As an employer, it's not the shortage of workers thats the problem. I'm sure there are plenty of workers out there but they just simply choose not to work thanks to the welfare state we have created. We used to have 60-65 local employees and now we have less than 15 local employees and 35 H2A Hispanic employees that actually "want" to work. The H2A's haven't displaced any of the locals because if it wasn't for them we wouldn't be able to stay in business. And before anyone unloads on me about Hispanics, please do your homework about the H2A program thru the Department of Labor.
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What kind of business are you in?
 
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In reality automation is incredibly expensive and rarely justified unless volumes are huge and product is really redundant. Some of those little pneumatic cylinders can cost hundreds of dollars. May cost a million bucks to automate something pretty simple. robots price versus capability seems to have improved recently (last 15 years) but I haven't done a robot project in years.
 
wbvs58 said:
I don't know about it doesn't get sick, I'm sure they have their share of breakdowns though good preventive maintenance minimises it.

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True and the machinery doesn't cough, sneeze or shed hair on the food. I view it as a big improvement.
 
sassafras manor said:
As an employer, it's not the shortage of workers thats the problem. I'm sure there are plenty of workers out there but they just simply choose not to work thanks to the welfare state we have created. We used to have 60-65 local employees and now we have less than 15 local employees and 35 H2A Hispanic employees that actually "want" to work. The H2A's haven't displaced any of the locals because if it wasn't for them we wouldn't be able to stay in business. And before anyone unloads on me about Hispanics, please do your homework about the H2A program thru the Department of Labor.
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It's especially difficult to find workers for hard labor or harsh conditions type of work, look at roofing crews and concrete workers. Not many born in America kids want those jobs.
 
Buck Randall said:
Demand for human labor is going to drop precipitously over the next 20 years.
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This is a trend that has already been going on throughout our lifetimes, ditch diggers were replaced with backhoes, is just one example. Watch a video of the Panama Canal being built and see how many workers there were, today there would be a fraction of the workers for a project like that, but the machinery would be much bigger.
 
sassafras manor said:
As an employer, it's not the shortage of workers thats the problem. I'm sure there are plenty of workers out there but they just simply choose not to work thanks to the welfare state we have created. We used to have 60-65 local employees and now we have less than 15 local employees and 35 H2A Hispanic employees that actually "want" to work. The H2A's haven't displaced any of the locals because if it wasn't for them we wouldn't be able to stay in business. And before anyone unloads on me about Hispanics, please do your homework about the H2A program thru the Department of Labor.
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I would say that there is no shortage of people. (I think we actually have too many people.) But I do think there is a shortage of workers (people needing and willing to work). If they choose not to work, I would not consider them workers. If not for fairly recent immigrants, a lot of us might have to become vegetarians or eat more imported meat. Probably need some immigration reform that allows more working people in and ships out some non-working folks.
 
In order to automate the processing of a cattle carcass they will demand uniformity and anything that doesn't fit the size requirements will be discounted by the packers. It's coming, be prepared.
 

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