Trying harder....

[Kingfisher]

to " Love my neighbor" and finish digging these holes in the ground! What do you need to have the courage to change?

 

[inyati13]

to " Love my neighbor" and finish digging these holes in the ground! What do you need to have the courage to change?

You mean to change yourself? Or do you mean you need something to provide you the courage to go change your neighbor?

 

[Caustic Burno]

to " Love my neighbor" and finish digging these holes in the ground! What do you need to have the courage to change?

You mean to change yourself? Or do you mean you need something to provide you the courage to go change your neighbor?

Off to see the wizard

 

[Kingfisher]

the wonderfull anyway....Ron if I could only change myself...
Did you ever get the courage to buy a scale?

 

[bball]

to " Love my neighbor" and finish digging these holes in the ground! What do you need to have the courage to change?

Great question King. For me, it was the desire deep in my gut to be the best example of a father and a husband I am capable of. It's a daily challenge, and some days I fail miserably. I don't let my failures hold me back- I own them and try my best not to repeat them. I have a few things I remind myself of daily:
1. The open challenge I have to my children: Be a better man than I have been. I try to set the bar high as i can, so they have something to aim for. If they do this, then I feel like I have done my part for humanity (leaving the world better than I found it via my offspring).
2. Trying to be kind to people I genuinely dislike. This is a hard one and I fail often. But anyone can be kind to folks they like. My employment provides ample opportunity. This reason alone is why I enjoy cattle so much.

 

[JMJ Farms]

Good post Brad. I fail miserably too. But I think about the Tim McGraw song lyrics. "I ain't as good as I'm gonna get, but I'm better than I used to be".

 

[inyati13]

the wonderfull anyway....Ron if I could only change myself...
Did you ever get the courage to buy a scale?

Laughing. Not yet.

 

[Kingfisher]

Slacker

 

[True Grit Farms]

I'm sure glad that everyone doesn't think like it do. I've pretty much just quit trying to get along with folks and family that I can't relate to. I've done my best to teach our kids right from wrong. But there's people and lifestyles that go completely away from what I believe is right. And to me giving in is to give up. Stand for something or fall for anything comes to mind.

 

[bball]

I'm sure glad that everyone doesn't think like it do. I've pretty much just quit trying to get along with folks and family that I can't relate to. I've done my best to teach our kids right from wrong. But there's people and lifestyles that go completely away from what I believe is right. And to me giving in is to give up. Stand for something or fall for anything comes to mind.

Interesting assessment Grit. I dont equate being kind to someone as condoning their behavior or lifestyle. I can disagree with someone, but in a way that is respectful or kind to them as a person. While I'm capable of being a real pr*ck, I chose not to be (ok, atleast try not to be). A soft answer turneth away wrath. My 'real' job, I deal with lots of folks that are angry, upset or frustrated with some aspect of care (or lack thereof) they received. It becomes very easy to dislike or even dismiss their feelings because as long as they had a positive outcome (clinically) , which is the primary reason for being there, why complain about fluff?? But people do. This MD or RN was rude, didn't like the food etc etc. In today's world, the experience is equally as important as the clinical outcome. So when someone wants to chew on me for 15 minutes straight because they had to wait 3 hours to see a doc in ER (for a non emergent ailment). I listen, try not to judge, focus on solutions, treat them with respect and kindness and take my azz chewing on behalf of my employer. 9 times out of 10, after voicing their frustrations, complaints or concerns to someone willing to listen, they walk away satisfied and at the least, not angry anymore. So I guess, I like to stand for kindness.? I appreciate your position as it causes me to consider many angles. Thank you.

 

[inyati13]

I'm sure glad that everyone doesn't think like it do. I've pretty much just quit trying to get along with folks and family that I can't relate to. I've done my best to teach our kids right from wrong. But there's people and lifestyles that go completely away from what I believe is right. And to me giving in is to give up. Stand for something or fall for anything comes to mind.

Interesting assessment Grit. I dont equate being kind to someone as condoning their behavior or lifestyle. I can disagree with someone, but in a way that is respectful or kind to them as a person. While I'm capable of being a real pr*ck, I chose not to be (ok, atleast try not to be). A soft answer turneth away wrath. My 'real' job, I deal with lots of folks that are angry, upset or frustrated with some aspect of care (or lack thereof) they received. It becomes very easy to dislike or even dismiss their feelings because as long as they had a positive outcome (clinically) , which is the primary reason for being there, why complain about fluff?? But people do. This MD or RN was rude, didn't like the food etc etc. In today's world, the experience is equally as important as the clinical outcome. So when someone wants to chew on me for 15 minutes straight because they had to wait 3 hours to see a doc in ER (for a non emergent ailment). I listen, try not to judge, focus on solutions, treat them with respect and kindness and take my azz chewing on behalf of my employer. 9 times out of 10, after voicing their frustrations, complaints or concerns to someone willing to listen, they walk away satisfied and at the least, not angry anymore. So I guess, I like to stand for kindness.? I appreciate your position as it causes me to consider many angles. Thank you.

Human relations is complex. You have to put on the hat that works in accordance with the circumstances. My guess is Grit wants to wear one hat and expects everyone to conform to him. I understand that ideal and not a bad one. But it would not work in your job.

 

[JMJ Farms]

"Better to be hated for who you are , than loved for who you aren't"

BBall I spent some time in the medical field while I was getting my education. 3 years. My conclusion was it's important to try to make the experience for the patient as pleasant as possible because the patient is already having an unpleasant experience. But some of them....... There just ain't no satisfying them. I feel sure you do a pretty good job. You seem real level headed.

 

[True Grit Farms]

I expect no one to conform to me or my way of thinking. And I dang sure don't deserve to have folks try and force their lifestyle and values on me. I quit going to worship because of the hypocrites, and my circle is getting smaller every day. I struggle with the thought of being selfish, self centered and intolerant everyday. But at the end of the day I have no problem sleeping.

 

[pdfangus]

I expect no one to conform to me or my way of thinking. And I dang sure don't deserve to have folks try and force their lifestyle and values on me. I quit going to worship because of the hypocrites, and my circle is getting smaller every day. I struggle with the thought of being selfish, self centered and intolerant everyday. But at the end of the day I have no problem sleeping.

amen brother....
you have just briefly described my stance on everything..
I quit attending any church years ago for just the reason you named... :cowboy:

 

[bball]

"Better to be hated for who you are , than loved for who you aren't"

BBall I spent some time in the medical field while I was getting my education. 3 years. My conclusion was it's important to try to make the experience for the patient as pleasant as possible because the patient is already having an unpleasant experience. But some of them....... There just ain't no satisfying them. I feel sure you do a pretty good job. You seem real level headed.

You're correct Michael. I'm sitting in a hospital right now with my mom and she is quite nervous about her procedure. It's good to sit on the other side of the bed sometimes for perspective.
I appreciate the compliment and I try to be level-headed. Healthcare is the most demanding thing I have ever done; and I have done air traffic control in USAF and law enforcement. Inyati nailed it when he stated how complex human interaction can be. Especially in an unfamiliar setting, with expectations that may or may not be realistic. My point was that I encounter people (work or elsewhere) that I may dislike for whatever reason, but I still choose to be kind to them. The disliking part is a decision I make....and so is the being kind part. Dislike is a feeling(emotion), being kind is a decision (an action I control). While emotion is vitally important and good, it can sometimes be dangerous if not balanced. I respect TGF precisely because he is passionate about what he believes. Without men like him, our country might never have become what we are today. Flip side is, we also need balanced men as well, else our Constitution wouldn't have become the effective document it's been for over 200 yrs. Takes all kinds to make this whole thing work.

 

[inyati13]

I expect no one to conform to me or my way of thinking. And I dang sure don't deserve to have folks try and force their lifestyle and values on me. I quit going to worship because of the hypocrites, and my circle is getting smaller every day. I struggle with the thought of being selfish, self centered and intolerant everyday. But at the end of the day I have no problem sleeping.

amen brother....
you have just briefly described my stance on everything..
I quit attending any church years ago for just the reason you named... :cowboy:

Boys, we are three peas in a pod. I agree on the hypocrisy. I stopped attending Church 50 years ago. I would not have gone then if it was not forced on me.

 

[True Grit Farms]

I expect no one to conform to me or my way of thinking. And I dang sure don't deserve to have folks try and force their lifestyle and values on me. I quit going to worship because of the hypocrites, and my circle is getting smaller every day. I struggle with the thought of being selfish, self centered and intolerant everyday. But at the end of the day I have no problem sleeping.

amen brother....
you have just briefly described my stance on everything..
I quit attending any church years ago for just the reason you named... :cowboy:

Boys, we are three peas in a pod. I agree on the hypocrisy. I stopped attending Church 50 years ago. I would not have gone then if it was not forced on me.

Inyati, your view's and mine are very different on religion. And I'll leave it at that.

 

[inyati13]

amen brother....
you have just briefly described my stance on everything..
I quit attending any church years ago for just the reason you named... :cowboy:

Boys, we are three peas in a pod. I agree on the hypocrisy. I stopped attending Church 50 years ago. I would not have gone then if it was not forced on me.

Inyati, your view's and mine are very different on religion. And I'll leave it at that.

Shoot. We just found some common ground and you have to say that??? You could have posted all day and not posted that!!!

I thought there for a minute, you and I were bonding. I even picked up my dog Sky and gave her a big kiss.

 

[Ky hills]

I am not intending to come off as being judgmental towards any ones feelings about the subject, because I have seen hypocritical actions from church going folks, as well as though who aren't. The unfortunate reality is that if we put faith in people we can be very easily disappointed by their words or actions. My view is that I go to church for a reason, and not for the reasons of others. If I worry about what others are doing, then I am being judgmental and missing the point just as they may be doing as well. I have seen first hand, friends and family that have been hurt by folks that were considered to be church family. It is important to put those experiences in perspective and realize that those experiences were from people, and there is no person perfect.

 

[pdfangus]

Ky hills,
I am feeling what you are saying, but it is the disingenuous of the people in the church that put me off from the church... not the church itself.... preachers cavorting with women in the church who were not their wives..I have seen more of this than I care to discuss.....almost wanted to take up the ministry to chase women and money in my younger days..church leaders trying to impose their will on the congregations in terms of spending money...all the petty human frailties that one would not expect to be on display in the church. not to mention the sunday only christians who will stoop to anything the other 6 and half days of the week. I don't think you can raise livestock and live in nature and not appreciate the powers bigger than yourself. But structured religion I can well do without.