tractor q

bigbull338

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ok guys an gals ive got a q for yall.weve got a 32yr old 7700 ford with a loader an over 15,000hrs on it.when would you consider getting a back up tractor for it.right now its getting worked on alot.because its had the loader on it all its life.so the front end takes a beating.an has tobe worked on some.in the near future im wanting to get a 4wd drive tractor as a back up.im thinking bout putting a loader on it from the start.but adding a loader will add $7000 to the cost.
 
the q is if you had a tractor like that when would you buy a back up tractor.it blew 2 hydro hoses tonite.so they need replacing.
 
It is always good to have 2 tractors, I would of had one along time ago. You never know when one will break when trying to do something.
 
I guess after 32 years of service, the old gal could use a rest or used for light duty. A hydraulic hose busting isn't much compared to a blown gasket, clutches, transmissions or pumps going out. It just is they rarely fail at a convenient time (if their is such a thing). :P

Just realized, my 3010 must be about 46 now. :shock:
 
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15,000 hours WOW!!!
To be fair I haven't looked seriously at a lot of real old, off color, tractors. I have bought a few used tractors, In fact I have never owned a new one. (Unless you count a lawn tractor.) I do read a lot of Trader, HPJ type equiptment ads. I don't think I have ever seen a tractor, other than woreout Deeres, even approaching 10,000
hours. I Know they are probably out there but in my experience 3500 to 5000 has been about the off brand limit for a dealer to put out on the lot.

Now to your question! That Ford doesn't owe you anything, especially if you have worked it on a loader for several years. Its been very good to you! Nothing lasts forever, At some point you reach a point of diminishing returns, you have to look at dependablity. Does it cost you money if that tractor is unavailable or is it just a frustration? If it were me I would look for something more dependable but only you know your situation and pocketbook.
 
so far weve been able to get the tractor back up an going pretty quick.an i know the day is coming that its going to need to rest.thats why im really considering another tractor.but the new tractor wont have a cab on it.we can do most all the repairs on it ourselves.
 
the only thing thats been done to it other than normal repairs is a new motor.an we had that done in 92 or 93.yes a loader on a tractor for 32yrs will wear it out pretty good.
 
Buy a new tractor of any brand.When you need it the worst the new one will let you down.
Keep the Ford for backup you can work on it and keep it going.
 
There is a way for you to figure out when its time, if the tractor don't figure it out for you. Cull them like calves.
1. How much did you spend last year on repairs?
2. If your time is worth anything, how much was your labor worth?
3. What did down time cost you?
4. If you bale your own hay how much did you lose because you couldn't harvest at optimum time?
5. Could you have been working on something else that you lost money on because you couldn't get to it for working on the tractor?

Add up all those cost; then devide the total by the number of hours you put on it in a year and you'll have a reasonable cost per hour.

Say you give $15,000.00 for a newer tractor. Subtract the value of your old tractor; not what you think its worth but a realistic auction estimate; say $3000.00 . That makes $12000.00. For a guesstimate, it will last 7 years so add reasonable maintenance cost of $400 a year, that brings us to $14,800.00. If financed at 7 years at 8% interest, the payments would be about $2800 a year (You must do this even if you pay cash because this is a buisness investment). Devide the $2800 by the number of hours you'll use it in a year and that will be the hourly cost of the newer tractor. You can decide which is cheaper to own the new one or old one.

None of this takes into account how much better you'll look settin up on a newer tractor?
 
AudieWyoming":ubf9hn74 said:
15,000 hours WOW!!!
I don't think I have ever seen a tractor, other than woreout Deeres, even approaching 10,000 hours. I Know they are probably out there but in my experience 3500 to 5000 has been about the off brand limit for a dealer to put out on the lot.

A lot of the older green stuff we ran needed an overhaul at 4000 to 5000 hours. I know some folks get more hours out of them but we havn't.

Our older blue engines seems to run about twice as long for use. I have heard of some going over 20,000 hours.

What is your tractor hour record before overhauling?
 
we arnt really spending any money on repairs on it.weve been working on that wheel as needed.putting it back in place an welding it real good.i figure to fix it with new parts will cost $500 or $600.a cab adds $10,000 to a new tractor.
 
I would have thought that a cab would be a must have in texas. With all that heat a/c sure would be nice, but might not be $10,000 worth of nice.
 
c farmer":1jzs0wge said:
I would have thought that a cab would be a must have in texas. With all that heat a/c sure would be nice, but might not be $10,000 worth of nice.

Depending on the operation it can increase the usefullness of the tractor 30 to 40 per cent.
 

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