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Preface: Please limit participation in this thread to those who are Scientist, Philosophers or anyone else with an open mind. May not be suitable for fundamentalist, Muslims or old time Preachers.


Starting a new thread on TIME. I was annoying another user on the Market thread. Let's avoid RELIGION. Keep it clean! No calling names or insults please. The Moderators will thank you:

Time and space are inextricably linked - this is what we call 'spacetime'. The spacetime in which we exist (the Universe) was created in the Big Bang, and as such this can be considered the beginning of time.

Whether time will end depends on the ultimate fate of the Universe. The Universe may continue to expand forever, it may slow to a halt, or it may collapse back in on itself in a 'Big Crunch'. In the first two scenarios time does not have an end. In the Big Crunch case, spacetime as we know it would be destroyed, and time could be considered to have ended.

How can time have a beginning? If time has a beginning, it should also have an end too. What happens after time ends? Isn't it more logical to assume time is infinite without a beginning and end?
Is there any theory which is very close to describe our universe as a whole? (It's beginning, it's lifetime, its end).

Why is it hard to understand that time has a beginning and an end?
According to science, how did time begin?
How can there be a beginning of time?
When people say time may end are they talking about our universe or whole multiverses (if it exist)?
When does history end and "recent events" begin?
Will time end?
When did time start? What is its beginning?
How old is the universe?
If we were to build a wormhole how do we know where the end of it will be in space and time?
Is it possible that time is circular and that there was never really a beginning?
If time is defined as a dimension, does that imply that time has no beginning or end?
If time has no beginning and no end, does this mean that time is not really a valid concept?
If the universe was uniformly distributed energy in space time in the beginning and uniformly distributed energy in space time in the end, why is the entropy different?
 
I've pondered this with a few people... like many people far more educated in the subject... I always find it fun, but in the end we never really get anywhere
 
You know. I was at Inyati's little cottage last night. Poor guy said he misses Cattle Today since he was banned. He said it is no fun talking science with Professors and Educated people. He said it is not engaging when the audience holds your same philosophy and values. He said it was a lot more fun poking at the Christian Conservative Culture on CT. He even had a small tear in his eye and his voice broke when he confessed that he actually loved these folks here.
 
I asked my good friend Tyrone these questions and he said time was what the judge says it is. Time can have a beginning like when the judge sentences you but then again time can exist before the judge gives you time like the time when Tyrone got arrested for selling crack rocks in the tenth grade. Judge gave him five years but said this would include the time he stayed in jail before he was given time so there is clearly time before time.

Later Tyrone was arrested for drug trafficking and was given a lifetime sentence but Tyrone found religion in prison and they let him out in four years since he didn't kill nobody and a president said he was a good boy and a nonviolent offender so its clear an eternity isn't what you might think. But later, Tyrone was high on crack and did a drive by where he accidentally killed a woman and her baby because he was too high to aim straight and the judge gave him life plus a day. Tyrone asked the judge if this meant four years and a day like last time and the judge said no. Tyrone was upset and accused the judge of discrimination and called him some names and the judge added more time for contempt of court. So clearly this shows there is time after time making it infinite and that only the judge knows what time really is and you don't need to be questioning him about what time is because only the judge actually knows the true meaning of time and time is what it is - time - and you do it day at a time until you don't.

This is what Tyrone says and he has a lot of time on his hands to think about stuff like this. That is of course when he's not watching television or playing ball.
 
Jogeephus":23xfx8l3 said:
I asked my good friend Tyrone these questions and he said time was what the judge says it is. Time can have a beginning like when the judge sentences you but then again time can exist before the judge gives you time like the time when Tyrone got arrested for selling crack rocks in the tenth grade. Judge gave him five years but said this would include the time he stayed in jail before he was given time so there is clearly time before time.

Later Tyrone was arrested for drug trafficking and was given a lifetime sentence but Tyrone found religion in prison and they let him out in four years since he didn't kill nobody and a president said he was a good boy and a nonviolent offender so its clear an eternity isn't what you might think. But later, Tyrone was high on crack and did a drive by where he accidentally killed a woman and her baby because he was too high to aim straight and the judge gave him life plus a day. Tyrone asked the judge if this meant four years and a day like last time and the judge said no. Tyrone was upset and accused the judge of discrimination and called him some names and the judge added more time for contempt of court. So clearly this shows there is time after time making it infinite and that only the judge knows what time really is and you don't need to be questioning him about what time is because only the judge actually knows the true meaning of time and time is what it is - time - and you do it day at a time until you don't.

This is what Tyrone says and he has a lot of time on his hands to think about stuff like this. That is of course when he's not watching television or playing ball.


Thank the Lord, I found a true philosopher. You sir, have lifted me from the depths of my despair.

:banana:
 
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Margonme":36rgshia said:
You know. I was at Inyati's little cottage last night. Poor guy said he misses Cattle Today since he was banned. He said it is no fun talking science with Professors and Educated people. He said it is not engaging when the audience holds your same philosophy and values. He said it was a lot more fun poking at the Christian Conservative Culture on CT. He even had a small tear in his eye and his voice broke when he confessed that he actually loved these folks here.

Sounds like Inyati is just a tad conceited, and maybe lonely and bored. It's possible that the latter is because of the former.

But what would I know, I'm just a dumb Chrisitan.

I hope he finds something "engaging".
 
Margonme":2ma8ub7r said:
You know. I was at Inyati's little cottage last night. Poor guy said he misses Cattle Today since he was banned. He said it is no fun talking science with Professors and Educated people. He said it is not engaging when the audience holds your same philosophy and values. He said it was a lot more fun poking at the Christian Conservative Culture on CT. He even had a small tear in his eye and his voice broke when he confessed that he actually loved these folks here.

Tell prince he's wasting his time worrying about time. If he wants to make up time tell him to put down the merlot and go work on them shoddy pens. He'll be time ahead...
 
callmefence":32qksmwz said:
Margonme":32qksmwz said:
You know. I was at Inyati's little cottage last night. Poor guy said he misses Cattle Today since he was banned. He said it is no fun talking science with Professors and Educated people. He said it is not engaging when the audience holds your same philosophy and values. He said it was a lot more fun poking at the Christian Conservative Culture on CT. He even had a small tear in his eye and his voice broke when he confessed that he actually loved these folks here.

Tell prince he's wasting his time worrying about time. If he wants to make up time tell him to put down the merlot and go work on them shoddy pens. He'll be time ahead...

Fence, I will if I can find the TIME. :D
 
SJB":1bvoc8xq said:
Margonme":1bvoc8xq said:
You know. I was at Inyati's little cottage last night. Poor guy said he misses Cattle Today since he was banned. He said it is no fun talking science with Professors and Educated people. He said it is not engaging when the audience holds your same philosophy and values. He said it was a lot more fun poking at the Christian Conservative Culture on CT. He even had a small tear in his eye and his voice broke when he confessed that he actually loved these folks here.

Sounds like Inyati is just a tad conceited, and maybe lonely and bored. It's possible that the latter is because of the former.

But what would I know, I'm just a dumb Chrisitan.

I hope he finds something "engaging".

I hope he stays lonely, it would be a sin to sentence anyone to live with him!!!
 
Margonme":3icn07fw said:
I hope he stays lonely, it would be a sin to sentence anyone to live with him!!!

Tyrone says there are rules against cruel and unusual punishment and that would be that wouldn't you think? ;-) :lol2:
 
Jogeephus":35lfdldi said:
Margonme":35lfdldi said:
I hope he stays lonely, it would be a sin to sentence anyone to live with him!!!

Tyrone says there are rules against cruel and unusual punishment and that would be that wouldn't you think? ;-) :lol2:

Yes. For sure.

:cry2:
 
I would say that the human being is the only animal to record, document and acknowledge TIME.
Also the only animal to recognize a deity or higher power.
Perhaps both are because the human being is the only animal that has to live with knowing, someday , without a doubt. It will die.
 
Boots":2ojodpec said:
I would say that the human being is the only animal to record, document and acknowledge TIME.
Also the only animal to recognize a deity or higher power.
Perhaps both are because the human being is the only animal that has to live with knowing, someday , without a doubt. It will die.

Another philosopher. There is an excellent book by James Michener, called THE SOURCE. I read it years ago. It addresses the subject of mankind's efforts to cope with mortality. It begins with primitive religions and chronicles the evolution of religion. Culminating in the most sophisticated religion of them all - Catholicism. It is not just a religion. It became a government!!!

Encircled by a 2-mile border with Italy, Vatican City is an independent city-state that covers just over 100 acres, making it one-eighth the size of New York’s Central Park. Vatican City is governed as an absolute monarchy with the pope at its head. The Vatican mints its own euros, prints its own stamps, issues passports and license plates, operates media outlets and has its own flag and anthem.
 
For me there is a beginning and an end to time. It started in 1942 and will end in the next couple of years. Who cares about time before 1942 or after 2018, certainly not me. Mar, send me some of that stuff you're smoking. :lol:
 
lavacarancher":2zyjcacm said:
For me there is a beginning and an end to time. It started in 1942 and will end in the next couple of years. Who cares about time before 1942 or after 2018, certainly not me. Mar, send me some of that stuff you're smoking. :lol:

If you need it, you got it. Take care of yourself.
 
An old hog farmer was approached by the new county agent. The agent was telling the old farmer that they had plans on how to manage to get the hogs to market weight two weeks sooner. Old farmer said not interested. Agent said why. Old farmer said what is time to a hog.
 
If you watch the videos on the link i gave you on the saloon thread it has some interesting points (maybe thats where you got the idea for this thread?)
 
In the post you referred to, I used the term "the end of time". I was not necessarily being literal with the term. I would tend to believe that time is infinite. However, it is hard to wrap a finite mind around infinite matters, and although I am fairly well educated and well read, I don't pretend to have even a fleeting grasp on some of the deeper subject matter. I don't have the time to research many interesting subjects enough to even make an educated guess on them, part of the downfall of having limited time here on this earth. I will say, however, nothing is more valuable than time, it is one thing that you cannot buy more of, at least not yet.

lavacarancher, I don't know what your issues are, but I wish you all the best.
 

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