They can't give it away

[HDRider]

Almond milk, oat milk, soy milk???all plant-based and pretty popular

I guess I did not really view those as milk or a dairy alternative.

 

[Rancher]

I bought a couple steaks from local grocer, price was 9.99lb on sale (new york) and grilled them last evening, Been long time since I done this and now I no why! Tasteless feedlot angus meat just does not measure up to my local grass fed angus. That is what the customer looks for. The customer can see how my beef are treated any time they want and I have to turn away people in the fall as I never supp;y enough

 

[HDRider]

There may be a bifurcation with "meat". The real stuff for those that can afford it, and synthesized protein for those that cannot.

I think the price of real beef will eclipse and surpass by large measure the price of synthesized protein. I think real chicken and pork can be managed ever downward by economies of scale, but beef has a floor based on the price of land. I have to think there will come a day when producers stop selling below cost.

 

[Chevy]

I actually asked the question of some vegans and vegetarians I work with. They said it isn’t the health issue that makes them seek meat and dairy alternatives, it’s an animal welfare issue. This is where the mom and pop ranchers and local poultry producers are missing a huge marketing potential. Corporate farms and confinement production are seen as the evils, not the health evils of animal meat or high processing needs. I guess we need to address the issues on multiple fronts.

I disagree. I'm a vegetarian. I tried vegan before... may work for some. As well as gluten-free works for some or any other diet works for some amd others may not. I personally think you need to listen to you body amd what it's telling you. Your supposed to drink eight 8-ounce, ( totaling 64 ounces, or about 1.9 liters) of water per a day. Okay of your real activity, hot your sweating alot maybe more. I feel great when I drinking water my skin, body, everything feels great. Now a child, elderly that doesn't do as much activity may need less water, please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm not a doctor, but that common sense. If you eat nuts say they make you itch or give you hives you most like not eat them correct. Same with me meal makes me feel bad, it's not awe cute cow I'm not going to eat you. Or cute chicken. If everybody was to become vegan or vegetarian the world wouldn't have enough food. We need animals to feed people.... or do we? Hmmm.... we need McDonald's and fast food to feed people cause most people are to lazy to cook at home... correct? Plus it give people jobs correct? Looks at all the jobs that comes from restaurants, Prepared meals, ect from people eating out.

 

[HDRider]

I'm a vegetarian. I tried vegan

What is the difference?

 

[Chevy]

I guess I did not really view those as milk or a dairy alternative.

I'm confused... cow, goat,....Kefir....wait...

https://www.homestratosphere.com/types-of-milk/
I just learned something 22 Different Types of Milk (Animal & Plant-Based).

 

[Chevy]

Hdrider your an alright feller you always make me have to think... Google get adha Google more think learn something. Thanks man!!

 

[Chevy]

I learned something new yesterday, actually feel pretty dumb. I normally research most things to the point I research way to much get the good and the bad it becomes just entirely to much. Collagen.... never cross my mind as something I should research. I apparently I missed this on the bullet proof immune defense label. I was doing keto for a while being a vegetarian it's hard. I believe was happen was I read low carbs and half the healthy stuff and missed the protein comes from cows. I'm not going to lie at first I starting being a vegetarian cause I felt better not eating meat, not meat makes me want barf. Ya'll enjoy all the meat you like, I'm not trying to push being a vegetarian on you, just saying not for me. Every since one of ya'll said mushrooms and the maggots I can't handle them anymore. Like shrimp are maggots of the sea, I can't eat them. I used to love them. I just can't that gag barf start coming up when the big shrimp maggot comes near my mouth. Seriously. I want to eat them I can't. I had some bad sea food in Florida I go real sick. No going back from that.

Oh yea I didn't realize collagen even collagen fillers was from cows and pigs. Yet they do have fish collagen. As well as there are different food you can eat as a vegetarian to help with anti age and collagen..... like Avocado, nuts, ect. I'm sure ya'll are super worry about anti age. Wink. Just thought that was interesting I learned something knew and felt dumb. Live and learn all we can do. *Smiles.

https://poggiplasticsurgery.net/procedures/collagen-fillers/

 

[Buck Randall]

What is the difference?

Vegetarians may eat eggs and dairy. Vegans will not.

 

[Chevy]

What is the difference?

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/325478
https://www.northshore.org/healthy-...-and-macrobiotic-diets--whats-the-difference/
I'm really a pescatarian. (easier to say vegetarian instead having to explain to 99.99% of people.) I've had more than one doctor ask me if I eat meat as a vegetarian. I said, no meat I eat occasionally salmon. Than they ask if I eat chicken? Last I checked chicken is meat. Later ask if I'll eat a hamburger sometimes. I'm tell them zero meat. Guess it's not popular where I live versus California.

Pescatarian:

This diet abstains from eating all meat and animal flesh (like red meat and poultry) with the exception of fish. A pescatarian is someone who maintains a vegetarian diet with the addition of fish and other seafood like shrimp, mussels, salmon, crabs and lobster.

However, a pescatarian is not considered a vegetarian—the diets are separate from each other. A vegetarian diet excludes all animals.

Pescatarians are allowed beans and legumes like tofu and tempeh, vegetables, grains, fruits and dairy products. One benefit of this diet is the moderate consumption of fish or fish oils, which are high in Omega-3 fatty acids, a necessary part of one’s diet

A strict vegan wouldn't have leather furniture, purses, shoes, anything made from an animal. I wouldn't make that. I like leather. I'd have to give up my snake skin poop kickers.

 

[Chevy]

I like homemade soaps, honey... I buy local. I wouldn't make it.

 

[Son of Butch]

Oleo was not a 'forerunner' of margarine. It's just a shortened name version of oleomargarine.

Okay
Oleo was probably the first 'brand' I remember. Because of Dad's heart issues doctor recommended, so the whole family had to switch, so no butter as a temptation.
In a year or so family switched to a better tasting margarine. Within a few years there was an explosion of different brands of better tasting margarines from which to choose.

Which is another reason I think margarine is a valid example for comparison.
With time, improved taste/texture of a variety of fake meats will continue.

 

[greybeard]

legal to own but not to sell yellow oleomargarine in some states. Yellow is for BUTTER!

 

[Hippie Rancher]

I learned something new yesterday, actually feel pretty dumb. I normally research most things to the point I research way to much get the good and the bad it becomes just entirely to much. Collagen.... never cross my mind as something I should research. I apparently I missed this on the bullet proof immune defense label. I was doing keto for a while being a vegetarian it's hard. I believe was happen was I read low carbs and half the healthy stuff and missed the protein comes from cows. I'm not going to lie at first I starting being a vegetarian cause I felt better not eating meat, not meat makes me want barf. Ya'll enjoy all the meat you like, I'm not trying to push being a vegetarian on you, just saying not for me. Every since one of ya'll said mushrooms and the maggots I can't handle them anymore. Like shrimp are maggots of the sea, I can't eat them. I used to love them. I just can't that gag barf start coming up when the big shrimp maggot comes near my mouth. Seriously. I want to eat them I can't. I had some bad sea food in Florida I go real sick. No going back from that.

Oh yea I didn't realize collagen even collagen fillers was from cows and pigs. Yet they do have fish collagen. As well as there are different food you can eat as a vegetarian to help with anti age and collagen..... like Avocado, nuts, ect. I'm sure ya'll are super worry about anti age. Wink. Just thought that was interesting I learned something knew and felt dumb. Live and learn all we can do. *Smiles.

https://poggiplasticsurgery.net/procedures/collagen-fillers/
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there are vegan protein products out there, but really you would be better off eating real food, even vegetarian can get full protien from combining stuff. do you do dairy and or eggs? even easier.

here are some good articles from an org that coaches health and nutrition (just ignore the ads)
https://www.precisionnutrition.com/plant-based-proteinhttps://www.precisionnutrition.com/all-about-proteinhttps://www.precisionnutrition.com/all-about-protein-powdershttps://www.precisionnutrition.com/how-to-choose-protein-powder

 

[faster horses]

The one place I think fake meat fits, is in countries that don't have the infrastructure to haul carcasses around; plus the people there probably can't afford much in the way of meat. Other than that, I am against it. Too much going for real meat and not much going for fake meat. Look at a comparison some time.

https://www.cnet.com/health/nutrition/is-the-impossible-burger-healthier-than-beef/
100 grams (3.5 ounces) of lean ground beef (10% fat) contains:

• 217 calories
• 12 g fat (5 g saturated)
• 90 mg cholesterol
• 70 mg sodium
• 0 g carbohydrate
• 0 g fiber
• 26 g protein

Keep in mind that the caloric and fat values of ground beef increase as the fat percentage increases.

The 4-ounce Impossible Burger 2.0 comes pretty close to beef, nutritionally:

• 240 calories
• 14 g fat (8 g saturated)
• 0 g cholesterol
• 370 mg sodium
• 9 g carbohydrate
• 3 g fiber
• 19 g protein

While the macronutrient profiles of real beef and Impossible ground beef are comparable, their levels of processing are not. Because it doesn't occur in nature, plant-based beef is highly processed, comprised of a variety of plant ingredients, colorings, extracts and preservatives to mimic the taste, texture and aroma of real beef.

For example, the Impossible Burger contains soy protein, a strange ingredient called soy leghemoglobin, sunflower and coconut oils, methylcellulose, yeast extract, cultured dextrose, food starch and more. So if your goal is to eat less processed foods, real beef is the way to go (not including items like hot dogs, which are also very processed).

One particular concern about faux beef is the sodium content, as pointed out by Dr. Andrew Weil, an integrative medicine doctor and creator of the praised Anti-Inflammatory Diet. One version of the Impossible Burger -- the Impossible Whopper at Burger King -- contains 1,240 milligrams of sodium, which is even more than what's in a regular Whopper.
The last couple generations of Americans have spent their lives fearing red meat, only to find out that saturated fat really isn't as bad as we thought.

 

[Hippie Rancher]

The one place I think fake meat fits, is in countries that don't have the infrastructure to haul carcasses around; plus the people there probably can't afford much in the way of meat. Other than that, I am against it. Too much going for real meat and not much going for fake meat. Look at a comparison some time.

https://www.cnet.com/health/nutrition/is-the-impossible-burger-healthier-than-beef/
100 grams (3.5 ounces) of lean ground beef (10% fat) contains:

• 217 calories
• 12 g fat (5 g saturated)
• 90 mg cholesterol
• 70 mg sodium
• 0 g carbohydrate
• 0 g fiber
• 26 g protein

Keep in mind that the caloric and fat values of ground beef increase as the fat percentage increases.

The 4-ounce Impossible Burger 2.0 comes pretty close to beef, nutritionally:

• 240 calories
• 14 g fat (8 g saturated)
• 0 g cholesterol
• 370 mg sodium
• 9 g carbohydrate
• 3 g fiber
• 19 g protein

While the macronutrient profiles of real beef and Impossible ground beef are comparable, their levels of processing are not. Because it doesn't occur in nature, plant-based beef is highly processed, comprised of a variety of plant ingredients, colorings, extracts and preservatives to mimic the taste, texture and aroma of real beef.

For example, the Impossible Burger contains soy protein, a strange ingredient called soy leghemoglobin, sunflower and coconut oils, methylcellulose, yeast extract, cultured dextrose, food starch and more. So if your goal is to eat less processed foods, real beef is the way to go (not including items like hot dogs, which are also very processed).

One particular concern about faux beef is the sodium content, as pointed out by Dr. Andrew Weil, an integrative medicine doctor and creator of the praised Anti-Inflammatory Diet. One version of the Impossible Burger -- the Impossible Whopper at Burger King -- contains 1,240 milligrams of sodium, which is even more than what's in a regular Whopper.
The last couple generations of Americans have spent their lives fearing red meat, only to find out that saturated fat really isn't as bad as we thought.

and next: salt isn't the bad thing it is made out to be either, for the vast majority of people, even many with hypertension.

 

[greybeard]

Ingredients in Impossible Beef:
soy protein concentrate, (incl heme)
coconut oil,
sunflower oil,
potato protein,
methylcellulose,
yeast extract,
salt,
gums,
and water and additives, including vitamin B12, zinc, vitamin B6, thiamin (B1) and niacin.

Ingredients in ground beef:
Ground beef.

 

[sstterry]

All the reviews of the new KFC "Impossible Chicken" say it is awful and some say inedible.

 

[HDRider]

Meat Analogue a meat-like substance
It's What's For Dinner

Just does not have the same ring

 

[Chevy]

Meat Analogue a meat-like substance
It's What's For Dinner

Just does not have the same ring


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Your funny!! Fake meat is beef for dinner.

https://www.womenshealthmag.com/food/a19914260/best-meat-substitutes/
Jackfruit is good. Do ya'll like jackfruit?? Do ya'll have jackfruit local not can fresh jackfruit??