Talk about stupid laws...............

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From Drovers alert:
Switzerland has adopted new animal protection legislation which specifies in great detail how fish and animals are to be treated — including how to dispose of unwanted goldfish.

Under the new law, live goldfish cannot be flushed down the toilet — they must be knocked out and killed first. The new law also spells out in exhaustive detail how all domestic animals are to be treated, including pets, farm animals or those destined for scientific experiments. Wild animals are also covered by the law if they reside in zoos or circuses.

The Swiss law also bans catch-and-release fishing and the use of live fish bait. Domestic animals, pets and wild animals in zoos or circuses must now be kept with at least one companion of their own species.

Additionally, dog owners must take classes on how to properly raise their canines and how to minimize their risk of biting. Most cosmetic procedures such as cropping tails and ears and surgically making ears droopy are now illegal.

I have no doubt the new Swiss law is well intended, but just how does one "knock out" a goldfish? If you're like me, you believe this new law is silly and largely unenforceable. But don't think it couldn't happen here. There are plenty of folks who would like to see such measures adopted in America, but they're smart enough to realize we're not ready for that…yet. Instead, they're taking baby steps toward that goal, and one of those steps is Proposition 2 which is on the ballot in California the first Tuesday in November. For more, see Wikipedia's information on Proposition 2 and www.safecaliforniafood.org. – Greg Henderson, Drovers editor.
 
john250":1zpqfxmm said:
dun":1zpqfxmm said:
Under the new law, live goldfish cannot be flushed down the toilet — they must be knocked out and killed first.

Can I just flip the fish into the cat's dish?

Only if you throw it hard enough to knock it out
 
I read that this morning on Drover's alert, and though someone has too much time on their hands to come up with such idiocracy.
 
dun":2uy43cxu said:
john250":2uy43cxu said:
dun":2uy43cxu said:
Under the new law, live goldfish cannot be flushed down the toilet — they must be knocked out and killed first.

Can I just flip the fish into the cat's dish?

Only if you throw it hard enough to knock it out

Wouldn't a sledge hammer work??
 
We donate ours to the university frats, They swallow 'em by the dozens. :roll:
 
No, if PETA made laws like that, it would give dogs and cats voting rights, and goldfish would have to be " rehomed".

What if you don't want a companion animal? What if your dog doesn't bite? And if he does, does he need therapy?

If cats act aloof, do they need medication? What about nervous little dogs? Counseling?

Geez, there's no end to it.
 
How would anyone know if you flushed, or are all the fish marked at sale? some one call the R.S.P.C.G.F. or in your case the A.S.P.C.G.F.....
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Talking to our Vet yesterday, who is extremely well connected and very very intelligent ,we somehow got onto this very subject.

He said that the Europeanization(sp?) of North America is only a matter of months....Times are just not tough enough for everyone to know where there food supply really comes from, and the consequences of such ...

The shelves are full at the super market, so who cares where the food comes from at this time,,,BUT when the shelves are bare they wonder where the h@ll is all the food...

It has happened before, as is "the circle of life", and it will happen again.

Let's hope there are enough agro producers left in North America that have not given up because of all the BS and Hypocrisy of the consumers to still be around to save there sorry @sses..
 
hillsdown":ezkousn5 said:
Talking to our Vet yesterday, who is extremely well connected and very very intelligent ,we somehow got onto this very subject.

He said that the Europeanization(sp?) of North America is only a matter of months....Times are just not tough enough for everyone to know where there food supply really comes from, and the consequences of such ...

The shelves are full at the super market, so who cares where the food comes from at this time,,,BUT when the shelves are bare they wonder where the h@ll is all the food...

It has happened before, as is "the circle of life", and it will happen again.

Let's hope there are enough agro producers left in North America that have not given up because of all the BS and Hypocrisy of the consumers to still be around to save there sorry @sses..

Very well said, Hillsdown. Europe has gone over the edge, but they will come back when they are hungry.
North America will likely follow that trend. My environmental friends think Europe is morally superior to North America. I try to point out the truth, but the supermarket shelves are full...
 
john250":aaoli129 said:
dun":aaoli129 said:
Under the new law, live goldfish cannot be flushed down the toilet — they must be knocked out and killed first.

Can I just flip the fish into the cat's dish?

What a waste. Why not gut the thing, put it in some lime juice with some garlic and onion an put it in the fridge for 3 weeks. Seviche anyone!?!
 
WOW! How many goldfish would be needed for this dish???????

How to Make (& Spell) Ceviche/Seviche/Cebiche

Ceviche, seviche, or cebiche — your choice — is almost a cuisine in its own right. Enormously popular in the western countries of South America as well as Mexico, the Caribbean, and other parts of Latin America, it has many variations, but is basically a simple blending of fish and citrus juice, with the addition of vegetables and spices.

The chemical process that occurs when the acid of the citrus comes in contact with the fish is similar what happens when the fish is cooked, and the flesh becomes opaque and firm. Indeed, many people refer to the juice as "cooking" the fish, although that is just plain wrong!

South American lemons are not as sweet as those in this country, and are often used for the ceviche. Further north, limes are the fruit of choice, although many people use a mix of lemon and lime.

Ceviche can include a mixture of saltwater fish, scallops or other shellfish, squid or octopus, and onion, chili, tomato, pepper and/or cilantro, and is often served as an appetizer or light meal. In this country, red snapper, sole, and pompano are the most popular choices. We have some fans of scallop ceviche in the office here, although shellfish is usually cooked briefly first (blanched) and oiled before going into the lime juice, as the acid tends to break down its texture if it is raw.

Many ceviche recipes ask you to marinate the fish for a good four hours to set the fish all the way through, although some call for much shorter marinating times. Keeping the fish in the juice longer (say, overnight) results in a lime taste that many people think overpowers the fish.

The one cardinal rule of preparing ceviche is that the fish must be absolutely fresh.
 
chrisy":1slzjgmq said:
WOW! How many goldfish would be needed for this dish???????

How to Make (& Spell) Ceviche/Seviche/Cebiche

Ceviche, seviche, or cebiche — your choice — is almost a cuisine in its own right. Enormously popular in the western countries of South America as well as Mexico, the Caribbean, and other parts of Latin America, it has many variations, but is basically a simple blending of fish and citrus juice, with the addition of vegetables and spices.

The chemical process that occurs when the acid of the citrus comes in contact with the fish is similar what happens when the fish is cooked, and the flesh becomes opaque and firm. Indeed, many people refer to the juice as "cooking" the fish, although that is just plain wrong!

South American lemons are not as sweet as those in this country, and are often used for the ceviche. Further north, limes are the fruit of choice, although many people use a mix of lemon and lime.

Ceviche can include a mixture of saltwater fish, scallops or other shellfish, squid or octopus, and onion, chili, tomato, pepper and/or cilantro, and is often served as an appetizer or light meal. In this country, red snapper, sole, and pompano are the most popular choices. We have some fans of scallop ceviche in the office here, although shellfish is usually cooked briefly first (blanched) and oiled before going into the lime juice, as the acid tends to break down its texture if it is raw.

Many ceviche recipes ask you to marinate the fish for a good four hours to set the fish all the way through, although some call for much shorter marinating times. Keeping the fish in the juice longer (say, overnight) results in a lime taste that many people think overpowers the fish.

The one cardinal rule of preparing ceviche is that the fish must be absolutely fresh.
Sounds like lemon seasoned bait to me
 
Acutally pretty good especially with a cold beer. Never had it with goldfish but did eat dolphin prepared this way. (not talking about Flipper) :lol2:
 

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