I had already use Charolais bulls with my commercial herd but with the full french blood bulls that I use we have calving problems (I sold 8 of those bulls in May and replace them with Simmentals), but still using 4 Charbray bulls(that are very large bulls). If I use black Angus I should sell the heifers too (don't like black) that's why I was looking for Reds (Brangus or Angus) even though I was already using Limousin. Just about ten days ago I bought two Red Brangus bulls that specifically I will use them with the less Brahman influence cows that I have in my commercial herd that way I will keep the heifers, also I'm just considering to give a try with South Devon bulls so I can have a more accurate comparison of the terminal cross calves.
In October I A.I. some Simbrah cows with Tarentaise and I'm anxious to see the calves.(I use Tarentaise because it's dual purpose black pigmented breed)
I really appreciate your comments and you really got the point of what I was talking about
> I may have missed some of your and
> subsequent poster's points --- but
> of course the pure Simmental-Angus
> cross that you refer to above has
> no Brahman influence at all, and
> your proposed Simbrah-Red Brangus
> cross maintains a 3/8 Brahman
> influence since both parents are
> 3/8 Brahman animals. Probably too
> much ear and hump to sell for top
> dollar in the feeder market. But
> if you are talking about crossing
> heifers that are the offspring of
> Simbrah-Red Brangus to a pure
> British or Continental bull you
> will of course wind up with a calf
> with only 3/16 Brahman influence,
> probably with "small"
> ears and no negligible hump and
> probably won't get docked much if
> any.
> You are in deep S. Texas and
> Northern Mexico as I recall. From
> what I can tell through my own
> observations and discussions with
> others I think in SE Texas black
> still sells about the best, along
> with those stocky calves that
> appear to be obvious Charolais
> crosses.
> And in fact many of those
> Charolais sired calves that sell
> in SE Texas have 1/4 Brahman
> influence since they have a tiger
> stripe momma (1/2 Hereford and 1/2
> Brahman). The ear and hump is
> essentially gone on those 1/4
> Brahman calves. I know you like
> the red in your herd, but for your
> terminal cross calves perhaps you
> should strongly consider Charolais
> bulls as well as black angus.
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