Sally McBurgerflipper !!

[torogmc81]

I couldn't resist sharing this well written, and somewhat humorous, view point!! And it should be the ONLY viewpoint!!



I DON'T KNOW WHO WROTE THIS BUT THEY HAVE A POINT

"Okay, rant - For those fast food employees striking for $15 an hour, let's do some math. At $15 an hour Johnny Fry-Boy would make $31,200 annually. An E1 in the military makes $18,378. An E5 with 8 years of service only makes $35,067 annually. Hmmmmmm..... So you're telling me, Sally McBurgerflipper, that you deserve as much as those kids getting shot at, deploying for months in hostile environments, and putting their collective asses on the line every day protecting your unskilled butt! Here's the deal, Baconator, you are working in a job designed for a kid in high school who is learning how to work and earning enough for gas, and hanging out with their equally goofy high school pals. If you have chosen this as your life long profession, you have failed. I worked at a movie theater as a projectionist when I was 17 years old. I made $3.25 an hour. I didn't bitch. I was happy to have some money to screw around with. I also knew that I didn't want to be doing that when I was 30 years old and raising a family!!!!!! Pull your heads from your bottoms and stop being content with your McJob. Leave that for the kids who really need it so they can learn a basic work ethic and realize that's not what they want to do with their lives. End rant."

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[Deepsouth]

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[greybeard]

Yep--& instead of striking, I suggest they walk out of those golden arches, go down the street and find the local recruiter's office.

 

[hurleyjd]

MILITARY COMPENSATION: ARMY BENEFITS
IT’S MORE THAN JUST A SALARY

The Congressional Budget Office recently estimated that the average active duty service member receives an Army benefits and pay compensation package worth $99,000. Noncash compensation represents almost 60 percent of this package. Noncash compensation includes health care, retirement pay, child care and free or subsidized food, housing and education. Coupled with regular cash compensation, this adds up to attractive military compensation for Soldiers.

 

[slick4591]

 

[Nesikep]

Yup!

In the cartoon above... Did he order a half dozen mcnuggets, but told they only come in packs of 6 or 12?

 

[boondocks]

I'll admit I'm kinda torn on this one...I agree with the quote, strongly. But then a little voice (I really should make it shut up sometimes) says: Wait, times have changed. Our manufacturing base has largely up and left with Elvis. (Actually, as it turns out, they left the building at about the same time. And the building is now falling in. But I digress).

So, says voice, times have changed. Service jobs (retail, especially) are most of what we have now. Those adults trying to raise a family on that 10 bucks (or less) an hour? No way. The rest of us end up subsidizing them anyway (health care, food stamps, housing subsidies). At least the "working poor" are trying to stay off welfare. Maybe we should pay them just a bit more. (So the cost of our Big Macs goes up a dime. We eat too many of them anyway, maybe...).

But then the original voice says: but what about personal responsibility? Shouldn't you put off having kids until you're making a living wage?

Well, yes, but that doesn't seem to be a view shared by, well, most of the world's populations, does it? And, once here, with our good values, and wanting every conceived child to be a born child (as we ALL DO, right? ;-) , do we not need to help see to it that every child has food and shelter?

Whew...too much thinking for me.Think I'll go get a burger...

 

[hurleyjd]

I'll admit I'm kinda torn on this one...I agree with the quote, strongly. But then a little voice (I really should make it shut up sometimes) says: Wait, times have changed. Our manufacturing base has largely up and left with Elvis. (Actually, as it turns out, they left the building at about the same time. And the building is now falling in. But I digress).

So, says voice, times have changed. Service jobs (retail, especially) are most of what we have now. Those adults trying to raise a family on that 10 bucks (or less) an hour? No way. The rest of us end up subsidizing them anyway (health care, food stamps, housing subsidies). At least the "working poor" are trying to stay off welfare. Maybe we should pay them just a bit more. (So the cost of our Big Macs goes up a dime. We eat too many of them anyway, maybe...).

But then the original voice says: but what about personal responsibility? Shouldn't you put off having kids until you're making a living wage?

Well, yes, but that doesn't seem to be a view shared by, well, most of the world's populations, does it? And, once here, with our good values, and wanting every conceived child to be a born child (as we ALL DO, right? ;-) , do we not need to help see to it that every child has food and shelter?
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Whew...too much thinking for me.Think I'll go get a burger...

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[wacocowboy]

I don't think a burger flipper should be making that much money it is a kids job with little to no skill needed. The problem is a lack of career jobs here in America, we have gone from a manufacturing country to an import country. The jobs have gone from manufacturing which pays good wages to service jobs that don't pay good wages. I saw a deal not to long ago there are college kids with a 4 year degree who are still having to take low paying jobs because there aren't enough in their field of study. To me it looks like the government has screwed the people once again with high corporate tax and low or no tariffs on imports.

 

[hurleyjd]

I never worked as a burger flipper but I doubt I could keep up the fast pace they have to work at. Mark Cuban made a remark about workers at Diary Queen. They challenged him he accepted and could not keep up.

 

[sim.-ang.king]

As I had said before, but some got on my case for saying it, it doesn't matter what you pay some of these people, their not going to work any harder, or would be willing to do a job that requires more out of them. If they were willing to work more, for more pay they would already be working there, and not flipping burgers.
As Emerson put it "Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work."

 

[Dave]

The part of this that gets me is compare McBurgerflipper to a lot of other relatively unskilled jobs. Here in the PNW chokermen start out at $14-15. That is working outside in all types of weather on steep ground. It is the number one job in the nation for on the job deaths. So far this year in Lewis County Washington there have been 8 loggers killed on the job. When was the last time you heard of a burger flipper being killed on the job?
Raising the minimum wage doesn't improve the low rung people it degrades those on the next step or two up.

 

[wv mud river]

someone working a 40 hr. week @ min. wage should be much better off than someone not doing any thing and getting everthing for free. its not only burger flippers .there is a working poor.class of people. either bring the workers up in wages or the freeloaders down in freebies and I mean way down.

 

[hurleyjd]

someone working a 40 hr. week @ min. wage should be much better off than someone not doing any thing and getting everthing for free. its not only burger flippers .there is a working poor.class of people. either bring the workers up in wages or the freeloaders down in freebies and I mean way down.

Most of these jobs are less than 30 hours per week.

 

[suzorse]

more like 15 to 20 hrs so they do not have to pay any benefits
Suzanne

 

[cow pollinater]

I'll admit I'm kinda torn on this one...I agree with the quote, strongly. But then a little voice (I really should make it shut up sometimes) says: Wait, times have changed. Our manufacturing base has largely up and left with Elvis. (Actually, as it turns out, they left the building at about the same time. And the building is now falling in. But I digress).

So, says voice, times have changed. Service jobs (retail, especially) are most of what we have now. Those adults trying to raise a family on that 10 bucks (or less) an hour? No way. The rest of us end up subsidizing them anyway (health care, food stamps, housing subsidies). At least the "working poor" are trying to stay off welfare. Maybe we should pay them just a bit more. (So the cost of our Big Macs goes up a dime. We eat too many of them anyway, maybe...).

But then the original voice says: but what about personal responsibility? Shouldn't you put off having kids until you're making a living wage?

Well, yes, but that doesn't seem to be a view shared by, well, most of the world's populations, does it? And, once here, with our good values, and wanting every conceived child to be a born child (as we ALL DO, right? ;-) , do we not need to help see to it that every child has food and shelter?

Whew...too much thinking for me.Think I'll go get a burger...

I'm not torn at all. Minimum wage is not meant for raising a family. It's an entry level position designed to give the worker basics that they can build on and use in a later career.
I absolutely agree that minimum wage should be more than what people on subsidies get but we need to go the other way... keep minimum wage where it is and cut subsidies. The people on subsidies aren't dumb. They've figured out that they can work or not work and the check is the same. cut the subsidy and see how fast they scramble for work that pays just a tad more than what they were getting. :nod:
As far as all kids getting food and shelter, I firmly believe that if you reduced the number of people living on government handouts in the us the percentage of kids going without would drop. When big brother steps in we all tend to step back and wait for him to fix everything(we paid for it to happen so we SHOULD be able to expect it to) and turn a blind eye to our communities but in reality real need is best met one on one face to face on a local level by churches, neighbors, friends and THEY are the ones that don't let their people go without. Government only cares about itself and those in real need get lumped in with all of the people that abuse our cheritable system.

 

[mwj]

We all pay the fast food owners to pay low wages. The owners make a good profit selling low cost meals and the tax payers pay for food stamps for the workers because they are making low wages. It makes me wonder why the consumer thinks they have a god given right to a low cost burger and fries! :???:

 

[Nesikep]

The price of the meal has little to do with it I think, the problem is the same one that Henry Ford had... Shareholder profits *before all else*. Ford had wanted to make some improvements to something, but since it would have cost the shareholders (at least in the short run), they took him to court and won.
Luckily for Ford, he was able to buy them all out, then make the changes he wanted to do. These weren't BAD changes, they were for better quality, which means a good company reputation, and sales in the long run.
Ford had said "Make the best goods possible, at the highest profit possible, paying the highest wages possible"... Where did we lose sight of 2 of the 3 things?.. The modern motto is "Make the cheapest crap possible, charge as much as you can for it, and pay the people dick squat"

 

[boondocks]

We all pay the fast food owners to pay low wages. The owners make a good profit selling low cost meals and the tax payers pay for food stamps for the workers because they are making low wages. It makes me wonder why the consumer thinks they have a god given right to a low cost burger and fries! :???:

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[highgrit]

B.S. you get what you pay for. Liberals think all the same. Before long if you keep raising the minimum wage the goods will cost to much, and the people will quit spending.