djinwa
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I'm considering this bull for ordering semen. They only had a picture as a yearling - will get an updated one to me. What do you think? I wonder if anyone can guess the breed.
Killala":30bnh5s7 said:Square Meater
djinwa":3oot48be said:Killala":3oot48be said:Square Meater
You win!
As you said, Colin, looks a bit leggy. Owner blames camera angle. I also thought he looked like some kind of continental breed. They say he looks much different now - we'll see when I get another photo.
One of only a couple square meater bulls in the U.S. - he was shipped from Australia. As many know, they're a smaller version of Murray Grey, though this guy is supposedly over frame 4. Doesn't seem enough smaller to justify a different breed, but maybe more to the story behind breeds getting started?
While poking around the web, I saw this study recently started in Colorado which will compare production of Murray Grey, Square Meaters, and Red Angus.
http://www.reeis.usda.gov/web/crisproje ... 14104.html
gberry":3sekdwbp said:Well, what did he have to say about them? I couldn't find any results from the study.
What do you think?
gberry":2zjwdz3m said:Well, what did he have to say about them? I couldn't find any results from the study.
CPL":2zjwdz3m said:What do you think?
I don't think to highly of the bull you've posted. Structurally he looks very incorrect. He appears to be VERY straight through out his front end, and his rear pasterns are too straight. I would like to see him move, because I could definitely see him taking a short, choppy stride. He also looks to be very tightly wound and doesn't look practical at all. If he were mine he would have been steered and sent to the feedyard where his muscle shape could be put to good use.
CPL":180td5cb said:What do you think?
I don't think to highly of the bull you've posted. Structurally he looks very incorrect. He appears to be VERY straight through out his front end, and his rear pasterns are too straight. I would like to see him move, because I could definitely see him taking a short, choppy stride. He also looks to be very tightly wound and doesn't look practical at all. If he were mine he would have been steered and sent to the feedyard where his muscle shape could be put to good use.
CPL":2t22l2j0 said:What do you think?
I don't think to highly of the bull you've posted. Structurally he looks very incorrect. He appears to be VERY straight through out his front end, and his rear pasterns are too straight. I would like to see him move, because I could definitely see him taking a short, choppy stride. He also looks to be very tightly wound and doesn't look practical at all. If he were mine he would have been steered and sent to the feedyard where his muscle shape could be put to good use.
Keren":3dkvglm0 said:CPL":3dkvglm0 said:What do you think?
I don't think to highly of the bull you've posted. Structurally he looks very incorrect. He appears to be VERY straight through out his front end, and his rear pasterns are too straight. I would like to see him move, because I could definitely see him taking a short, choppy stride. He also looks to be very tightly wound and doesn't look practical at all. If he were mine he would have been steered and sent to the feedyard where his muscle shape could be put to good use.
additionally, he doesnt display a typical Square Meaters phenotype; the breed was developed for early maturing, easy fleshing, vealer cattle; this bull shows almost no breed character apart from the fact that he is smaller than the fence. He displays none of those characteristics which separate a Square Meaters from a Murray Grey. When you look at a Square Meater, you should be able to TELL that he is a Square Meater, not a Murray Grey. By the frame, but also by the muscle pattern, fleshing ability, maturity pattern etc. I can see the merit in a lot of bulls posted here, even if they are not my cup of tea, but this is one bull I would NOT use. I get the feeling he has kept his testicles simply because of his breed. Imho if you are wanting to use this bull, you would do better to use a small framed Murray Grey bull; there are plenty around that would certainly do as good a job or better than this bull.