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Does anyone here aerate (sp?) their pastures? Can you tell a significant improvement? I was told I should aerate some leased pasture to improve my grasses, but I can't see a need. My understanding is aeration is beneficial for compacted soils from heavy equipment and livestock. This land is deep sand and doesn't compact. I drug the pasture with an old gate weighted with some cross ties to spread manure and it looks fine to me. Will fertilize in a couple of weeks if I can get past the price tag, was qutoed $400/ton.
 
I hit a 10 acre pasture with a weighted disk.Dug in about 2". Then fertilized
too early to tell! Had to do'it before the grass gets to tall
 
If the air and the water can get into it freely now then you are wasting your time aerating it . Only additional thing that would help is cutting deep weeds roots off at about 3 inches with a chisel plough fitted with batwings (flat steel knives that bolt across the bottom of the chisels .

But thats specialised and meant to increase the decaying matter in the soil and hence the humus content.

Forget the fertilizer , check the ph of the soil and adjust to what grass likes.
and if you have no other mineral deficiencies there is no more you can do.
 
tytower":2ad7wzjl said:
Forget the fertilizer , check the ph of the soil and adjust to what grass likes.
and if you have no other mineral deficiencies there is no more you can do.

Are you saying I don't need to fertilize, just adjust the ph and add trace minerals?
 
birdog":18kataik said:
tytower":18kataik said:
Forget the fertilizer , check the ph of the soil and adjust to what grass likes.
and if you have no other mineral deficiencies there is no more you can do.

Are you saying I don't need to fertilize, just adjust the ph and add trace minerals?
Soil test. Soil test. Soil test.
You don,t know squat without it.
Sand does not need to be aerated.
Sand needs less fert. per application but more often.
If you have bremuda, cutting the roots can stimulate growth, and thicken the stand.
 
Angus/Brangus":3oz4mhdm said:
novatech":3oz4mhdm said:
Are you saying I don't need to fertilize, just adjust the ph and add trace minerals?
Soil test. Soil test. Soil test.
You don,t know squat without it.
Sand does not need to be aerated.
Sand needs less fert. per application but more often.
If you have bremuda, cutting the roots can stimulate growth, and thicken the stand.

Somebody aerates sand? :lol2: Isn't that like mixing water?

O.k., how does cutting Bermuda roots thicken the stand? Seems like it would retard growth.[/quote]

Think you got you're quote mixed up.

Cutting the root acts just like the limb of a tree when you cut it. Have you ever noticed that when you cut the limb off a tree a bunch of new limbs come back where you made the cut? Every new root causes more vegitation to grow to the top.
This has been a common practice for years with bremuda especialy the hi-breds.
 
Angus/Brangus":1ltp37sa said:
O.k., how does cutting Bermuda roots thicken the stand? Seems like it would retard growth.

novatech":1ltp37sa said:
Think you got you're quote mixed up.

Cutting the root acts just like the limb of a tree when you cut it. Have you ever noticed that when you cut the limb off a tree a bunch of new limbs come back where you made the cut? Every new root causes more vegitation to grow to the top. This has been a common practice for years with bremuda especialy the hi-breds.

I got the quote right but I think the idea needs clarification. Cutting the roots illicits the idea of cutting the roots OFF. But a vertical cut would work - like with a disc - thus aerating the soil as well and allowing fertilizer to reach the root system much faster.

You did get the quote mixed up. I never said this, tytower did.
novatech wrote:
Are you saying I don't need to fertilize, just adjust the ph and add trace minerals?
 
Some of the aerators run over $10,000 for a new 12 ft'er. I looked into this topic a while back and I found that studies by the universities showed that it caused more harm than good. It stated that breaking up the soil caused the micro-organisms and bacteria that work to keep the soil healthy are broken up, and it takes time for it to repair and get back in working order. Also, earthworms (and dung beetles in pastures) aerate the soil if it is healthy. Before I spent that kind of money, I would spray the weeds, soil tests listing the grass and legumes I wanted to establish, follow the tests with lime if needed, and what ever fertilizer it called for, and I think you will be pleased. Soils that some called compacted are just in need of rain.
Chuckie
 
Chuckie":g3p33i29 said:
Some of the aerators run over $10,000 for a new 12 ft'er. I looked into this topic a while back and I found that studies by the universities showed that it caused more harm than good. It stated that breaking up the soil caused the micro-organisms and bacteria that work to keep the soil healthy are broken up, and it takes time for it to repair and get back in working order. Also, earthworms (and dung beetles in pastures) aerate the soil if it is healthy. Before I spent that kind of money, I would spray the weeds, soil tests listing the grass and legumes I wanted to establish, follow the tests with lime if needed, and what ever fertilizer it called for, and I think you will be pleased. Soils that some called compacted are just in need of rain.
Chuckie

This brings up a question. How is it that the number 1 crop produceing country in the world has done this by plowing up their fields? By your suggestion, farmers have been doing it wrong from the birth of farming.
Healthy soil means the addition of organics.This may be viable on a small plot, but is not feasable on any large scale.
 
I got one, paid $7000 for it 2nd hand..16'.

I like it....use it before lime & fertilizer.

I can tell the difference even if university study says i can't.
 
Novatech wrote:
This brings up a question. How is it that the number 1 crop produceing country in the world has done this by plowing up their fields? By your suggestion, farmers have been doing it wrong from the birth of farming.
Healthy soil means the addition of organics.This may be viable on a small plot, but is not feasable on any large scale.

I am not sure how they do it in Texas, but here in Tennessee, a large percentage of row cropping has gone to no-till due to the fact we have to watch erosion. We have been known to be called "large scale." Here as far as crops, we produce, cotton, soybeans, corn, wheat, etc..........
Alfalfa, clover, bermuda grass Orchard grass, etc........

What is the purpose of a sheet foot's roller in the construction industry? Why does an aerator do some what of the same?

We are better off with our humus on top giving an environment for earthworms and building our topsoil due to years of plowing and erosion problems that sent our topsoils down the Mississippi River.

Here you can push your shovel into the topsoil of a no-till field and the soil is moist, crumbly and life in the soil. Push the shovel into a field that is turned under, and it has the feel of clay and no earthworm passages. No earthworm passages = unhealthy soil. Earthworms live in humus, productive soil.

I see the manufacturers of aerators, the dealers that sell them and those that paid out the wazoo defending the fact that they parted with their hard earned money to get one.

In some areas, things are not done like they were hundreds of years ago. Here we call that change and (or) progress.
Chuckie
 
You would be hard pressed to find more of an advocate for organics. I am also a big fan of sustanable forage.
But going back to your statement
What is the purpose of a sheet foot's roller in the construction industry? Why does an aerator do some what of the same?
A sheep foot roller is specificly designed to compact. Go look at one, then go look at a cows foot. Go look at an aerator, it is designed to cut not pack.
I have seen overgrazed pastures brought back to life in one season with aeration. Problem is they do not have to do it every year, only when overly compacted. The effect of aeration will last for a long time, and possablely, with proper pasture management, would not have to be used again. Aeration is not for every pasture or every type of soil and is not a cure-all, but it does serve a purpose for the right conditions.
 
Here, a large scale farmer used an aerator on his land to see if it improved the soil. He found out that it fluffed the top layer of soil that the tines reached, but compacted it below where the tines pressed down.
I figure when the aerator improved the soil, that several other factors went into improving the soil other than just punching holes Like soil tests, following the soil tests, liming, and fertilizing.
If your ground is not fertilized and limed regularly as needed, then punching holes is expensive. But alone, the nutrients added to starving ground will improve even with aeration.
When you take care of the soil, the soil takes care of your crop. It isn't considered only "organic," but is the correct method for long term production and is less expensive.
Adding legumes such as clovers puts nitrogen that is realeased continously into the grasses. Quick fix nitrogens are quickly used up, and leaches out of the ground.
I do use quick fix fertilizers also, but it is low in nitrogen. I like the boost it gives, but is costly, but soon gone.
Serecia lespedeza is not a good legume to plant since it only produces the nitrogen it needs, and doesn't release it to the other plants and grasses. The serecia I have seen is the only thing standing when it grows. Kobe and Japenese lespedeza do realase nitrogen into the soil for use by other plants.
Here, if you punch holes in clay, you have clay with holes in it. No change in production of crop. Let the humus build up on the top, then you start producing topsoil with clay below. Earthworms thrive in humus therefore, providing nutrients to your grass. Earthworms are the most beneficial thing in the soil. They naturally aerate it with their passages, deposit casings which are the richest form of manure and they also are part of the process of breaking down the manure piles in your pasture, to be used by the roots. Manure on the ground, even if it is broken up, very little nutrients are used by the plants. It has to be taken down to the roots by dung beetles and earthworms. If you practice this, you will see more of your pasture grazed by your cattle than left standing with manure areas left standing.
Besides that, it is a lot cheaper on the pocket book by not purchasing implements, less fertilizer and less time on you.
Chuckie
 
I do know in my area alot of farmers talk about reduced yeilds with notill over the years do too compaction. shallow root systems. with scrap metal going through the roof. i found a six foot areator couple weeks hauled off and bought it for a song.
 
Check this out:
Entire article below quote from Paulo Prado
In a joint study published last year, the U.S. Agricultural Research Service and researchers at Auburn University in Alabama said that no-till methods raised average annual cotton production on experimental plots in eastern Alabama by as much as 324 pounds an acre, or nearly 15 percent, over a three-year period.
CABECEIRAS, Brazil When Albino Ampessan bought a farm here in 1982, the land still bore the scrubby bushes, gnarled trees and wiry grasses typical of Brazil's vast central savannas.

Migrating from the more fertile, more crowded south of the country, he was undeterred by the rugged terrain, purchasing 620 acres, or 250 hectares, and planting soybeans with the help of his three sons. The area was historically considered unproductive. About two hours outside Brasília, the farm and surrounding savannas were thought to be useful only for grazing cattle.

Then the wet season came, flooding much of his first crop. Subsequent years brought more rain, time and again washing away topsoil, seedlings and most of the new farm's promise.

"We lost a lot," says Ampessan, now 77. "We had to try something new."

So the Ampessans turned farming on its head. Instead of plowing before each planting, they leveled the previous crop, let the residue decompose and seeded the following year's crop directly in the mulchy remains.

The runoff stopped, and within a decade the farm had a layer of topsoil that "now grows whatever you plant," said Ampessan. Whereas the land initially produced 1,870 pounds, or 850 kilograms, of soybeans an acre, the farm - now 12,000 acres - last year produced 3,470 pounds of soybeans an acre, plus other crops including corn, sunflowers and pineapples.

The Ampessans were pioneers in Brazil of no-till farming, a practice increasingly used worldwide to fight erosion and enhance soil fertility. First developed by American scientists in the 1960s, the technique, also known as conservation tillage, has taken root here faster than in any other country and has helped Brazilian farmers become some of the most productive, competitive exporters in the world.

While there were some five million acres of no-till farmland in Brazil in 1992, by the end of 2004 more than 54 million acres, or half the country's farmland, was no-till, according to the Brazilian No-Tillage Federation, in the southern city of Ponta Grossa. The no-till methods, along with genetically modified seed, transformed the Cerrado region here into the breadbasket of Brazil, responsible for half the country's soybean production and a third of its corn.

"Conservation tillage is helping Brazil conquer the world market," said Wayne Reeves, research leader at the Agricultural Research Service of the U.S. Department of Agriculture, in Watkinsville, Georgia. "They copied it from the U.S., but did it bigger and better."

The technique spread just as advances in plant genetics were allowing tropical growers to cultivate crops, like soybeans, that once grew only in temperate climates. A drop in the value of the real, Brazil's currency, over the past decade made exports cheaper. Together, the factors made Brazil the largest exporter of sugar, beef and orange juice in the world, and the second-largest exporter of soybeans after the United States.

Traditionally, farmers till land to kill weeds and make soil crumble. But plowed dirt can wash or blow away. Tilling also exposes lower layers of earth to sunlight, evaporating moisture and burning nutrients.

As herbicides grew cheaper and less dangerous, many agronomists began urging farmers to forgo tilling altogether. "It's radical to throw your plow out the window, but it does wonders," said John Landers, an English agronomist who works in a no-till group in Brasília and who helped introduce no-till farming to the country.

The practice is growing quickly worldwide. Farmers in Argentina and Paraguay have begun following Brazil's lead. In Western Australia - the country's biggest, but one of its driest, states - conservation tillage increased wheat and barley production so much that the practice grew to cover 92 percent of the state's farmland over the past decade, according to Rolf Derpsch, a German agronomist recently hired by Australian growers to study their farms.

Adoption in the United States has been slower. Though many farmers in the Great Plains use no-till planting - overplowing and drought created the Dust Bowl of the 1930s - other growers have been reluctant to alter conventional methods. No-till plots now account for 23 percent of U.S. farmland, according to the Conservation Technology Information Center in West Lafayette, Indiana.

Yet studies in the United States indicate that conservation tillage could raise crop yields even in regions like the Southeast, where plowing has traditionally been deemed a must. In a joint study published last year, the U.S. Agricultural Research Service and researchers at Auburn University in Alabama said that no-till methods raised average annual cotton production on experimental plots in eastern Alabama by as much as 324 pounds an acre, or nearly 15 percent, over a three-year period.

One reason American farmers remain slow to adopt the practice, scientists say, is that government subsidies make them indifferent to the growing competitive advantage it lends foreign producers. Compared with Brazilian farmers, who compete on the world market with little or no state support, American growers this year are expected to receive $19.5 billion in government subsidies, nearly twice as much as in 2004, according to the Agriculture Department.

"There's a lack of economic incentive," says Ardell Halvorson, a soil scientist at the Agricultural Research Service's Soil Plant Nutrient Research Unit in Fort Collins, Colorado. "Without grants, it would have spread more."

Those who switch from conventional farming say the practice allays many concerns raised by environmentalists. For one, the amount of chemicals used in conventional and no-till farming is roughly the same. And the crop residue on the topsoil, scientists say, keeps the earth moist and fertile. More fertile soil means more efficient use of other chemicals, like fertilizers, and less demand for more farmland, scientists say.

"Much of the forest already cut would not have been had the know-how existed earlier to improve productivity in other parts of Brazil," said Norman Borlaug, who won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1970 for research in agronomy that helped increase the global food supply, by phone from his office in Mexico
 
Soil compaction can be a pastures' worst enemy, depending on the type of soil. Water won't soak in, fertilizer and lime will wash away, and the grass just won't grow.

I have some pastures that require aerating and some that don't, all within a few miles of the other. Have one type of sandy soil that needs it every year, and another that hardly ever gets compacted. The common denominator on the ones that do need aerating frequently are the ones that have several cows walking around and packing the soil for me. :lol: The hayfields don't need it nearly as often.

Here's a pic of an aerator like the one my neighbor lets me use from time to time.

aerator.jpg
 
Angus/Brangus":13nvyxrz said:
That's a nice aerator!! How long are the spikes? Could you pull a spreader behind it to get the phosporous deeper in the ground?

They are about 8 inches. Yea you could run a tractor behind it.

Wouldn't be much too rough.
 

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