moocow
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My wife was at the bank the other day and a guy came through the drive through service on a horse. Surprised I have'nt seen one tied up at work yet.
Now we look at 4.00 a GAL
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Campground Cattle
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C HOLLAND":35ih1nyy said:
Used to log this country with Mules, takes a fine team of mules and man to snake logs out of the woods. Across the road from me the old mule lot is still in the woods where the loggers would leave their teams.
C & C Land & Catt
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I had 3000 gallons of red diesel and 3500 Gallons of clear diesel delivered the other day and I am still crying. But u have to have it to operate sowhat do u do :?:
brierpatch1974
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OK this is most likely a dumb question for you guys but I have to ask in order to learn lol. I don't have anything the uses diesel so what the heck is the differance between red and clear? Besides the color.
Also the is an old farmer not far from here who grumpled about fuel prices and he was running low. For that days work instead of going and buying diesel he put kerosene in his tractor. What the heck is up with that?
BP
Also the is an old farmer not far from here who grumpled about fuel prices and he was running low. For that days work instead of going and buying diesel he put kerosene in his tractor. What the heck is up with that?
BP
I'll let someone else address the kerosene deal.
The difference between red (dyed) and road diesel is there aren't road/highway taxes on the red stuff. I don;t think the local sales tax are included either. Red is classified as farm fuel.
dun
The difference between red (dyed) and road diesel is there aren't road/highway taxes on the red stuff. I don;t think the local sales tax are included either. Red is classified as farm fuel.
dun
The price of gas seems to be dropping. It's been $2.98 around here, dropped to $2.85, then some places were selling for $2.83. We went to Texas yesterday and just north of Denton saw it for $2.72 and got all excited. But in Lewisville we were able to buy it for $2.62 and later saw it for $2.61. So maybe the big oil companies are going to give us a little break up until the November elections. 
All prices were for Regular unleaded.
All prices were for Regular unleaded.
kjones
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The red dyed diesel also has a different sulfur content. I'm not sure but I think it might also have a different cetane rating. In this state using "off road" diesel will get you a $5,000 fine. I know one logging contractor who says he saves more than that by using it though.
Ultra-low sulfur diesel (ULSD) describes a new EPA standard for the sulfur content in on-road diesel fuel sold in the United States, beginning June 1st, 2006. This new regulation applies to all diesel fuel, diesel fuel additives and distillate fuels blended with diesel for on-road use, such as kerosene. The EPA is also mandating the use of ULSD fuel in model year 2007 and newer diesel fuel engines designed for on-highway use. The EPA rule goes into effect for non-road, locomotive, and marine (NRLM) diesel fuel on June 1st, 2007.
The allowable sulfur content for ULSD (15 ppm) is much lower than the previous U.S. standard for Low Sulfur Diesel (LSD, 500 ppm), which not only reduces emissions of sulfur compounds (blamed for acid rain), but also allows advanced emission control systems to be fitted that would otherwise be poisoned by these compounds. These systems can greatly reduce emissions of oxides of nitrogen and particulates.
Because this grade of fuel is comparable to European grades, this standard may increase the availability of diesel-fueled passenger cars in the U.S., since engines will no longer have to be redesigned to cope with higher sulfur content. European diesels are both more advanced technologically and much more popular with buyers than those available in the U.S.
Additionally, the EPA is assisting manufacturers with the transition to tougher emissions regulations by loosening them for model year 2007 to 2009 light-duty diesel engines.[1] As a result, Honda, Nissan, Subaru, Toyota, and others are expecting to begin producing diesel vehicles for the U.S. market to join those from Mercedes-Benz and Volkswagen.[2]
According to EPA estimates, with the implementation of the new fuel standards for diesel, nitrogen oxide emissions will be reduced by 2.6 million tons each year and soot or particulate matter will be reduced by 110,000 tons a year.
On June 1st, 2006, U.S. refiners were required to produce 80% of their annual output as ULSD (15-ppm), and petroleum marketers and retailers were required to label diesel fuel, diesel fuel additives and kerosone pumps with EPA-authorized language disclosing fuel type and sulfur content. Other requirements effective June 1st, 2006, including EPA-authorized language on Product Transfer Documents and sulfur-content testing standards, are designed to prevent misfueling, contamination by higher-sulfur fuels and liability issues. Such regulations inc The EPA deadline for industry compliance to a 15 ppm sulfur content was originally set for July 15, 2006 for distribution terminals, and by September 1, 2006 for retail. But on November 8, 2005, was extended by 45 days to September 1, 2006 for terminals and October 15, 2006 for retail. In California, the extension was not granted and will be following the original schedule.
Sulfur acts as a lubricant in diesel, and by lowering the sulfur content there is a corresponding drop in the fuel's lubricity. This decrease in lubricating ability results in a minor decrease of energy content, about 1%. This decrease in energy content may result in reduced fuel economy. To achieve the sulfur requirements for the new fuel standards, diesel manufacturers include an additive to keep the fuel flowing smoothly, and to prevent engine damage. A relatively cheap lubricious additive is biodiesel.
ULSD will run in any engine designed for the ASTM D-975 diesel fuels.
The allowable sulfur content for ULSD (15 ppm) is much lower than the previous U.S. standard for Low Sulfur Diesel (LSD, 500 ppm), which not only reduces emissions of sulfur compounds (blamed for acid rain), but also allows advanced emission control systems to be fitted that would otherwise be poisoned by these compounds. These systems can greatly reduce emissions of oxides of nitrogen and particulates.
Because this grade of fuel is comparable to European grades, this standard may increase the availability of diesel-fueled passenger cars in the U.S., since engines will no longer have to be redesigned to cope with higher sulfur content. European diesels are both more advanced technologically and much more popular with buyers than those available in the U.S.
Additionally, the EPA is assisting manufacturers with the transition to tougher emissions regulations by loosening them for model year 2007 to 2009 light-duty diesel engines.[1] As a result, Honda, Nissan, Subaru, Toyota, and others are expecting to begin producing diesel vehicles for the U.S. market to join those from Mercedes-Benz and Volkswagen.[2]
According to EPA estimates, with the implementation of the new fuel standards for diesel, nitrogen oxide emissions will be reduced by 2.6 million tons each year and soot or particulate matter will be reduced by 110,000 tons a year.
On June 1st, 2006, U.S. refiners were required to produce 80% of their annual output as ULSD (15-ppm), and petroleum marketers and retailers were required to label diesel fuel, diesel fuel additives and kerosone pumps with EPA-authorized language disclosing fuel type and sulfur content. Other requirements effective June 1st, 2006, including EPA-authorized language on Product Transfer Documents and sulfur-content testing standards, are designed to prevent misfueling, contamination by higher-sulfur fuels and liability issues. Such regulations inc The EPA deadline for industry compliance to a 15 ppm sulfur content was originally set for July 15, 2006 for distribution terminals, and by September 1, 2006 for retail. But on November 8, 2005, was extended by 45 days to September 1, 2006 for terminals and October 15, 2006 for retail. In California, the extension was not granted and will be following the original schedule.
Sulfur acts as a lubricant in diesel, and by lowering the sulfur content there is a corresponding drop in the fuel's lubricity. This decrease in lubricating ability results in a minor decrease of energy content, about 1%. This decrease in energy content may result in reduced fuel economy. To achieve the sulfur requirements for the new fuel standards, diesel manufacturers include an additive to keep the fuel flowing smoothly, and to prevent engine damage. A relatively cheap lubricious additive is biodiesel.
ULSD will run in any engine designed for the ASTM D-975 diesel fuels.
KMacGinley
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Bullbuyer":2jdv0f3r said:
Amish can hire English as they call us all to cart them around or haul their livestock. Some people think that they are pretty big hypocrites in a number of ways.
aplusmnt
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MikeC":16ed0wnp said:
It is my understanding that this new law going into affect is the big reason there is such a split in Diesel and Gas prices lately. Use to around here Diesel was either about the same as Gas or maybe even a little cheaper. But the other day I saw Diesel 42 cents higher than Unleaded.
Hate to see it for Truckers and Farmers, but might be a good thing for the cars, a VW Jetta TDI Diesel is rated at 49 mpg highway. Diesel cars can make a big difference in oil consumption, just emissions and fuel quality has always been an issue.
Cinco_M_Gert
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$2.49/gal for for regular north of Houston. Sure wish diesel would drop to that.
