No Longer the Boy Scouts

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We tried doing Cub Scouts this year and my son asked if we could quit going. He said the kids were so misbehaved that it wasn't fun. He's seven. I just about fell over. I'd rather have a few well-behaved girls in a pack than the little heathens that were in our pack.
 
I think it's a shame. For the girls too. There's nothing wrong with having a few places left that boys can be boys and girls can be girls, without the complicating factor of the opposite gender. (Assuming, of course, that the girl scouts aren't just taught needlework and the boy scouts aren't just taught frog-gigging; and that most other places in their lives they get plenty of mixed-gender exposure. So to speak. erp.)
 
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the term "boy" is to masculine.


Males, especially white males, are the target source right now.
 
I always preferred to scout for girls. I saw where they figure to separate them at the high school level. I have news about that. Better do it sooner than that.
 
Scouts BSA will have separate units for the girls and the boys, so it appears there are no plans to make it co-ed.
Boy scout enrollment is down 12% from 5 years ago. My guess is they will target the sisters of Boy Scouts to make
participation easier for parents schedules.
 
Son of Butch":1zmhxznb said:
Scouts BSA will have separate units for the girls and the boys, so it appears there are no plans to make it co-ed.
Boy scout enrollment is down 12% from 5 years ago. My guess is they will target the sisters of Boy Scouts to make
participation easier for parents schedules.
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Lot of churches that sponsored troops dropped out during the gay snafu.
They formed another scouting organization, I can’t remember the name.
 
boondocks":19h9o9nb said:
I think it's a shame. For the girls too. There's nothing wrong with having a few places left that boys can be boys and girls can be girls, without the complicating factor of the opposite gender. (Assuming, of course, that the girl scouts aren't just taught needlework and the boy scouts aren't just taught frog-gigging; and that most other places in their lives they get plenty of mixed-gender exposure. So to speak. erp.)
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You summed it up pretty much exasctly how I feel about it. Thanks
 
Boy Scout troop I was in sucked. The highlight of our meetings was to walk to the local store and buy penny candy. I never got past the rank of tenderfoot. It would be impossible to overstate how much better it would have been if girls were there.
 
ga.prime":vlo1fbhd said:
Boy Scout troop I was in sucked. The highlight of our meetings was to walk to the local store and buy penny candy. I never got past the rank of tenderfoot. It would be impossible to overstate how much better it would have been if girls were there.
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I understand you much better now. Lol
 
Bright Raven":21c27t86 said:
ga.prime":21c27t86 said:
Boy Scout troop I was in sucked. The highlight of our meetings was to walk to the local store and buy penny candy. I never got past the rank of tenderfoot. It would be impossible to overstate how much better it would have been if girls were there.
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I understand you much better now. Lol
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Good, we're making progress!
 
My son is an Eagle Scout and I am an Assistant Leader. I must say our Troop does it the right way. There is a hike or activity at least once a month and normally at least 5 or 6 overnight hikes or camping trips each year. We go to Philmont, the Grand Canyon, and the Florida Keys on a rotating basis. One of the best bonding experiences he and I had was hiking to the bottom of the Grand Canyon and staying overnight the night (126 degrees at the bottom that day).

It is my understanding that allowing girls in will be left up to the Chartering Organization. But it will create a problem. Imagine 15 or 20 boys and 5 girls (older teenagers) on a 3 night backpacking trip. This is going to be heck on the leaders.
 
sstterry":1mwg2ud9 said:
This is going to be heck on the leaders.
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I agree. I used to be a scoutmaster and it was hard enough to follow the two-deep leadership when there was only one gender. If they still have that rule how will this work when you add girls to the mix? Will there have to be two-deep leadership of both sexes? Hard enough to get some of the parents to become involved as it was as many were just looking for a babysitter and their children really didn't want to be there.

My other thought is will this not make it harder to enlist scoutmasters? I mean, how many spouses of scoutmasters will feel comfortable sending their husbands out of a campout with a female scoutmaster - especially if she is HOT? And will the divorce rate of scoutmasters increase?

There is a lot I don't understand about this. Just can't understand why they can't improve the Girl Scouts so they can offer the same as the Boy Scouts. They claim the Boy Scouts are so much better. I'm actually a little surprised that someone hasn't become offended and made an issue that this is purely a misogynistic claim brought upon by the evil white male who doesn't think women are capable of running their own organizations without male leadership. (This thought might make for a great meme)

I just don't see it myself. I prefer the older way where you let boys be boys and girls be girls and when they have matured they both can move on to the Explorers if they wish.
 
sstterry":30d22gxm said:
My son is an Eagle Scout and I am an Assistant Leader. I must say our Troop does it the right way. There is a hike or activity at least once a month and normally at least 5 or 6 overnight hikes or camping trips each year. We go to Philmont, the Grand Canyon, and the Florida Keys on a rotating basis. One of the best bonding experiences he and I had was hiking to the bottom of the Grand Canyon and staying overnight the night (126 degrees at the bottom that day).

It is my understanding that allowing girls in will be left up to the Chartering Organization. But it will create a problem. Imagine 15 or 20 boys and 5 girls (older teenagers) on a 3 night backpacking trip. This is going to be heck on the leaders.
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I was a counselor at a camp one summer while I was in college. Church camp, canoe trip 20 miles down the river, slept on sandbars, cooked over an open fire . . . Good, clean fun, right? Except my group was 13-15 year old boys & girls. Fortunately my co-counselor was much more diplomatic than me because I was thiiiis close to losing my sh#%! Not a fan of co-ed overnight wilderness trips without parental supervision/intervention.
 

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