I see your point, problem is im already committed now so Ill stay with him for a few calves and see what I get then cut my losses if I don't get what Im looking for.
I do have a black angus bull that is more along the lines of what your saying and he is giving me some nice calves. I just wanted a Hereford bull so I could get a shorter legged calf with a longer body for more pounds in less time.
It may be a lesson learned by the school of hard nocks! Seems I have a lot of those type of lessons learned!