We got home with our new Reg. Hereford bull last night. First registered bull I have ever owned. I will post some pics if I can figure out how. I have read the help topic but it looks like I need to register on another board before I can copy and post the pics. Looking forward to the comments on what yall think of him. My last bull was a nice black angus but he turned out to be VERY HOT and hard to handle in the pins so I put him in the freezer. I didn't want to pass him on and get someone hurt. Hope to post the pics soon.
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ALACOWMAN
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congradulations ...
fitz
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Looking foward to your pics. Good luck with him.
fitz
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TennesseeTuxedo
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Polled or horned?
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Ok if this works you should be able to see him now. It wasn't quite daylight when I took these pic's so if yall cant see him well enough Ill have to take some more another time.
Ok if this works you should be able to see him now. It wasn't quite daylight when I took these pic's so if yall cant see him well enough Ill have to take some more another time.
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Ok, lets see if these can be viewed. I would like to hear some feed back on him.
A friend of mine is afraid that because he has horns that my cows will have trouble with his calves.
Any comments?
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Ok, lets see if these can be viewed. I would like to hear some feed back on him.
A friend of mine is afraid that because he has horns that my cows will have trouble with his calves.
Any comments?
ALACOWMAN
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reallyBLP":1s9hpot2 said:
they aint born with horns.. just buttonsYa I know. He says the heads tend to be larger and it comes out at the same time as the knees do and that is when the problem comes in. I'm thinking that he had one Hereford bull and he tended to sire large calves and that was his problem. Not because the bull had horn or not.
BLP":3pruzu3a said:
The generally accepted wisdom is the polar opposite of what you friend is telling you. Horned Herfs are generally conisdered to be easier not harder to birth.
And BTW all cattle come out that way!
Rowdy
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You're friend is right. Its the result of squarer shaped head. Why you think old french Chars were coined "pallet headed." Any association with calving ease of Horned herfs over polled is likely birthweight and body shape related and independent of their head.
As far as the picture of the bull calf, Ide prefer his dewlap meet between his front legs no lower than his chest floor. As you can see this calf's extends considerably farther. Two conclusions when you see this: 1) shallow chest 2) wastey front.
As far as the picture of the bull calf, Ide prefer his dewlap meet between his front legs no lower than his chest floor. As you can see this calf's extends considerably farther. Two conclusions when you see this: 1) shallow chest 2) wastey front.
O, by the way 3waycross, thanks for making the pic show up. Im not sure what I was doing wrong with the pictures.
I'm going to talk with him some more about why he thinks that. He has been in the cattle bus way longer that me but I don't understand his way of thinking some times.
So based on the pic's what do you think of my 9 mth old bull. He should sire calves with about 70# birth wt and about 650# ww.
I will be using him on BA cows and on Charolais cows for butcher calves.
The seller had some other polled bull calves but I like this one over the others. I should get his registration papers by the end of the month and can see his actual numbers then.
I'm going to talk with him some more about why he thinks that. He has been in the cattle bus way longer that me but I don't understand his way of thinking some times.
So based on the pic's what do you think of my 9 mth old bull. He should sire calves with about 70# birth wt and about 650# ww.
I will be using him on BA cows and on Charolais cows for butcher calves.
The seller had some other polled bull calves but I like this one over the others. I should get his registration papers by the end of the month and can see his actual numbers then.
HOSS
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BLP,
I can only post an opinion on what I see in the pic. In my opinion he looks more like a steer than a bull to me. He lacks masculinity. Different pics taken at different angles might help.
I can only post an opinion on what I see in the pic. In my opinion he looks more like a steer than a bull to me. He lacks masculinity. Different pics taken at different angles might help.
Hoss,
I can see your point and agree. My thinking though is that is what I am looking for in a calf that I want to butcher at 9 to 12 mths of age.
I sell my "grass fed beef" by the package at the farmers market and I am looking for a heavy calf as soon as I can get it to the 700# to 900# wt.
Im newer than most of yall at cattle but that is my line of thinking. I hope Im not way out in left field or out of the park.
I don't know how to make them show up but there are four different pic's if you click on the link for each one.
I can see your point and agree. My thinking though is that is what I am looking for in a calf that I want to butcher at 9 to 12 mths of age.
I sell my "grass fed beef" by the package at the farmers market and I am looking for a heavy calf as soon as I can get it to the 700# to 900# wt.
Im newer than most of yall at cattle but that is my line of thinking. I hope Im not way out in left field or out of the park.
I don't know how to make them show up but there are four different pic's if you click on the link for each one.
Rowdy
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No reason why you can't feed him out. The problem is that he will need to be 12-1300lbs before he had adequate cover on him.
HOSS
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BLP":1oabi960 said:
BLP,
I think you might be looking at this a bit backward if I understand what you are saying. If you want a good steer you want to pick a bull that looks like a bull instead of one that looks like a steer. A bull with masculine traits has a better chance of throwing a calf that will get you those pounds and muscle that you desire in a steer. A bull that lacks masculinity will probably throw lighter weight, lighter muscled calves that will take longer in getting the result you are looking for. In a nutshell a good bull will make a good steer and a lesser bull will make a lesser steer. Again I may not be understanding you completely.
I see your point, problem is im already committed now so Ill stay with him for a few calves and see what I get then cut my losses if I don't get what Im looking for.
I do have a black angus bull that is more along the lines of what your saying and he is giving me some nice calves. I just wanted a Hereford bull so I could get a shorter legged calf with a longer body for more pounds in less time.
It may be a lesson learned by the school of hard nocks! Seems I have a lot of those type of lessons learned!
I do have a black angus bull that is more along the lines of what your saying and he is giving me some nice calves. I just wanted a Hereford bull so I could get a shorter legged calf with a longer body for more pounds in less time.
It may be a lesson learned by the school of hard nocks! Seems I have a lot of those type of lessons learned!
