Morning fellas, Final verdict was to move the scissor aft 11 inches. Me and a buddy found the installation instructions for this dump system. Whoever had initially installed it, had it set waaay too far forward. It was only dumping to 40 degrees. Now it dumps closer to 50 degrees and works awesome. My mechanics son rebuilds truck frames and he is a great welder, so 1000 bucks later, it was fixed. I had called to ram manufacturer to make sure it would dump with 11" less leveeage, even when overloaded , which I do regularly. This F650 is rated at 26,000, weighs 13,500 empty. I routinely carry 7 yards of 3/4" gravel. I love this little truck. Has the Cat diesel, 6 speed tranny, single speed diff.