I've thought about that and yes there is. I was thinking if I centered them in each paddock now I could split them again with poly and step in posts if I wanted to in the future when I may have time to move cows more frequently. Good idea though.
TennesseeTuxedo":30heggya said:ddd75":30heggya said:TennesseeTuxedo":30heggya said:The newer ones are insulated and in really harsh climates you can add the heater option.
i've seen quite a few brand new ones freeze up solid as a block.
i just don't see how you can keep any heat in with them laying right on top of the ground. a heater is useless for a waterer far away from power.
um, any type water station will freeze in the conditions you put forth.
I'll take my chances with an enclosed tank with a heater and water provided by a line buried 3 feet down.
Our farm in 40 minutes south of Cincinnati and it gets plenty cold. Our waterers do a great job.
ddd75":26gcvq98 said:TennesseeTuxedo":26gcvq98 said:ddd75":26gcvq98 said:i've seen quite a few brand new ones freeze up solid as a block.
i just don't see how you can keep any heat in with them laying right on top of the ground. a heater is useless for a waterer far away from power.
um, any type water station will freeze in the conditions you put forth.
I'll take my chances with an enclosed tank with a heater and water provided by a line buried 3 feet down.
Our farm in 40 minutes south of Cincinnati and it gets plenty cold. Our waterers do a great job.
funny, my cobett waterers don't freeze at all even in negative temps. my water lines are about 3 - 3.5' deep..
I don't consider a waterer doing a 'great job' when it needs a heater to function.
ddd75":3ipjrdmf said:well i'm glad they work out good for you. you just said you'll take your chances with a heater but ok :hide:
Dueyb":6mj5jdvo said:I've thought about that and yes there is. I was thinking if I centered them in each paddock now I could split them again with poly and step in posts if I wanted to in the future when I may have time to move cows more frequently. Good idea though.
TennesseeTuxedo":2dc5jim0 said:
ddd75":1ab32x0j said:TennesseeTuxedo":1ab32x0j said:
nice looking cattle
'Banjo":3p9abcr8 said:I like the Ritchie waterers best. I like the ease of access by just lifting the lid to get to the shutoff valve instead of having to find a wrench to get inside it like the Behlens. I have found even if they don't freeze inside the balls will freeze to the sides and you have to break them loose so the cattle can push them down.
The main thing with any waterer is the earth tube going down deep as possible. That keeps your supply line from freezing and the water in the tank from freezing down to a certain temperature.
Then it depends on how often they drink from it....as to when it will freeze. They say if the water in the tank does freeze just leave it alone till it thaws. I've had that happen more than once......but it doesn't seem to hurt it.
I think I would like the big rubber tires too but I've never tried them
Banjo":27nko506 said:i guess you need good access to fix and thaw them all the time. " Quote ddd75 "
Yep.....My waterers are just here and there, cattle may drink out of them often or not for a few days....they have access to a pond and spring also. So the tanks may sit there for days with out any movement.
So, it sounds like yours are the peaches and cream.....do they not freeze if its below zero and nothing is drinking out of it for days? Or do you always have cattle drinking out of it constantly?
ddd75":1yhj5mny said:Banjo":1yhj5mny said:i guess you need good access to fix and thaw them all the time. " Quote ddd75 "
Yep.....My waterers are just here and there, cattle may drink out of them often or not for a few days....they have access to a pond and spring also. So the tanks may sit there for days with out any movement.
So, it sounds like yours are the peaches and cream.....do they not freeze if its below zero and nothing is drinking out of it for days? Or do you always have cattle drinking out of it constantly?
I can have negative temps and wind chill for a week.. no animal activity at all, go out in -5 temps first thing in the morning, and I'll have to chip a 1" piece of ice off the very top of the open water bowl. hit one side, then the other.. usually pops right out.. takes about 2 seconds. full fresh water ready.
dieselbeef":238m48xf said:ok to kinda sidetrack this just a bit. how do you keep the area around the waterers from getting so dug out from the traffic that the new calfs cant even reach it. I just have plain ole galvanized trough from tsc..200 gallon I think..but the ground around it has made it a tall drink
dieselbeef":2tccpn4g said:yea I was thinking quikcrete actually but I was gonna dump em and water em in...idk where the the dirt goes...