Friend of mine currently has a few bulls from the Judd Ranch and they've purchased their bulls for years. One of their current bulls is named Sub Par because her dad wouldn't pony-up & bought one of the cheap ones. And yet, Sub Par has far exceeded expectations in both docility and his calves - not a heifer bull. Last time her dad paid a premium for a Judd bull, he got struck by lightning after they had him all of 8 months. Bottom line: they've been pleased with every bull they've bought, regardless of price.