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Clarification for Sidney411:

Depending on the situation, even in Texas you can get authorization to use baits with solutions in them to protect your livestock.

When a pack of 12 to 18 dogs, in a period of 4 1/2 to 5 months, kill a total of 17 cows, 22 calves, plus chew up another 7 or 8 cows (ears off, tails off, with bite marks all over their heads and necks),when after you shoot and kill 3 or 4 of the dogs, you can't get them back out in the open. They can't be caught in live traps or steel traps, because of the human smell. You can get authorization to bait, as long as on the perimeter of the property you put up signs.

This is also done is South Texas and West Texas all the time.
 
That's one bad deal, rgv4. Was that your cattle that those dogs chewed up, or over a general area?

Up here coyotes aren't much of a problem. Only ever lost one animal to them - a gimped up calf this spring. He'd undoubtedly have died before fall anyway. Wolves are the main cause of death out where our cattle run, we don't really have much of a feral dog problem as strays seem to get shot before they accumulate. Plus, it's kind of a remote area, not that many people and plenty of cattle, so the no tolerance stray dog policy is carried around the neighbourhood.

The wolves are a bit more on the tricky side. Occasionally one of the neighbour's likes to doctor up a dead animal with some of "Dr. Wonderful's Amazing Health & Tonic Cure." He'll usually thin them out a bit in the winter that way, but in the summer they don't come in as close to the settled areas. Last count there were two fair sized packs just across the river (one with all greys and one black & the other all blacks with one grey - 12 in one, 11 in the other pack). There is the odd lone wolf, but they don't tend to do the damage that a bitch feeding a litter of cubs will. Usually including the neighbours, losses total 10-12 head a year to them. There is the odd bear around, but they usually don't cause much trouble.

Take care.
 
CattleAnnie said:
That's one bad deal, rgv4. Was that your cattle that those dogs chewed up, or over a general area?


Those were all our cattle.

Not to mention all the baby deer that the dogs ate up that spring. Most of the does around this area have twins every year, well that fall we didn't see very many fawns, most does were by themselves.
 
Man oh man, that is a bad deal all right. Did you ever get those dogs thinned down?

Up here it's the black bears that wreak havoc on the moose & elk calves and the deer fawns. Don't really mind though because otherwise we'd be knee deep in those hay burners.

Take care.
 
Neighbor shot a yote earlier this year their was four trying to get a calf. Cows were in the protective circle and the yotes were still trying for a newborn. We have a weird varation of yote weigh 60-65 pounds they have gotten mixed up with something. They are much bigger and more aggressive than the 30 pound South Texas version
 
Campground Cattle":1mxm0urr said:
Neighbor shot a yote earlier this year their was four trying to get a calf. Cows were in the protective circle and the yotes were still trying for a newborn. We have a weird varation of yote weigh 60-65 pounds they have gotten mixed up with something. They are much bigger and more aggressive than the 30 pound South Texas version

Years ago the printable term that was used for them was coydogs. Exactly what the name implies.

dun
 
Wow Camp..those are some bit yotes! I was going to say that we've never had a yote take down a calf, but it wouldn't suprise me if it was already dead. But if they're that size, that may be a different deal!
 

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