Wow there are some real friendly people on this forum. :roll:
SCRUBS620":1jz6bs1e said:
"Singlet oxygen" would be a free radical. Last I heard free radicals are bad and do not limit their oxidation to just industrial toxins and waste products. It might just as easily attack a DNA strand and cause cancer.
Hello SCRUBS620
So are you saying oxygen is bad for us and our bodies? Ok cut off your air supply and see how long you last...lol.
Lets see what William Koch had to say about free radicals(William Kochs teacher was Moses Gomberg the discoverer of free radicals)
Williams F. Koch, MD, Ph.D
"
The cause of free radicals in the human body is the LACK OF OXYGEN."
Here is another statement by someone who should know what they are talking about.
"Singlet O1 is a especially reactive form of oxygen capable of rapidly oxidizing many molecules, including membrane lipids. Its formation in O2 generating systems has often been proposed but
CLEAR CUT EVIDENCE FOR A DAMAGING ROLE OF SINGLET O1 IN SUCH SYSTEMS HAS NOT BEEN OBTAINED."
B. Halliwell, Department of Biochemistry, University of London Kings College, London, UK---- Oxygen Radicals: A Commonsense Look at Their Nature and Medical Importance"
Now SCRUBS620 it is time to put away your science books from the 1980's and step into 2007. Here is an article that shows antioxidants regulate or control reactive oxygen species NOT destroy them. So in essence we can say this.
The difference between healthy cells and diseased cells is this. Healthy cells make a self-protective antioxidant coating. The healthy cells naturally protect themselves with this coating BUT diseased cells cannot do this! Diseased cells cannot produce this antioxidant coating protecting themselves therefore they are susceptible to oxidation. Here is an article to prove it....
Antioxidant found in many foods and red wine is potent and selective killer of leukemia cells
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 042307.php
University of Pittsburgh researchers show compound kills leukemia cells while sparing normal, healthy cells
PITTSBURGH, April 23 --
A naturally occurring compound found in many fruits and vegetables as well as red wine, selectively kills leukemia cells in culture while showing no discernible toxicity against healthy cells, according to a study by researchers at the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine. These findings, which were published online March 20 in the Journal of Biological Chemistry and will be in press on May 4, offer hope for a more selective, less toxic therapy for leukemia.
Current treatments for leukemia, such as chemotherapy and radiation, often damage healthy cells and tissues and can produce unwanted side effects for many years afterward.
When the investigators studied the mechanism of cell death in the leukemia cells, they found that C-3-R induced the accumulation of peroxides, a highly reactive form of oxygen, which, in turn, activated a mitochondria-mediated apoptotic pathway. Mitochondria are specialized structures located within all cells in the body that contain enzymes needed by the cell to metabolize foodstuffs into energy sources. In contrast,
when the researchers treated normal human blood cells with C-3-R, they did not find any increased accumulation of reactive oxygen species and there were no apparent toxic effects on these cells.
Dr. Yins work suggests that although C-3-R demonstrates antioxidant effects in the normal cells, it paradoxically induces an oxidative stress in the tumor cells.
According to Dr. Yin, these results indicate that C-3-R has the promising potential to be used in leukemia therapy with the advantages of being highly selective against cancer cells. Because this compound is widely available in foods, it is very likely that it is not toxic even in purified form. Therefore, if we can reproduce these anti-cancer effects in animal studies, this will present a very promising approach for treating a variety of human leukemias and, perhaps, lymphomas as well."
So SCRUBS620 as we can see the University of Pittsburgh has found that antioxidants regulate reactive oxygen species and induce them into the unhealthy diseased cells BUT they do not damage or harm the healthy cells! Wow! Isnt that amazing. And isnt that the same thing I have said. ;-)
SCRUBS620":1jz6bs1e said:
Have you never picked up a science book. Oh wait they are part of the conspiracy!! Bacteria and fungi use carbon compunds for fuel (sugars, starches, etc.) for fuel regardless of the type of bacteria it is (I work in a medical laboratory and we grow bacteria all the time). Viruses dont even possess the ability to burn anything. They use DNA or RNA to trick the hosts cells into doing their reproduction. Last but not least Aerobic, not anaerobic, bacteria are the main cause for disease
I never said that aerobic bacteria does not cause disease. The important thing to remember is that normal healthy human(and animal) cells love oxygen and lots of it. That is where the antioxidants come into to play.
Dr. Freibott explains why oxygen and oxidation is so vital: "
It is the lack of oxygen in proper amounts in the system that prevents oxidation and oxygenation, which energizes the cell to biological regeneration. These processes are the "foundations of life and death"."
Dr. Otto Warburg, who won the Nobel Prize for Medicine, proved that the growth of cancer is inhibited in a high-oxygen environment. His Nobel laureate lecture showed that when oxidation fails and fermentation is substituted for a cell's energy, the pathway to cancer is opened.
Today, noted authorities also stress that most diseases, especially yeast or fungal infections like candida albicans, occur most frequently in an oxygen-poor environment in the body.
Dr. Parris Kidd has stated that: "
Oxygen plays a pivotal role in the proper functioning of the immune system: i.e. resistance to disease, bacteria and viruses."
An unfortunate side effect of antibiotic therapy is that it generally is not as selective and kills the good bacteria as well as the bad. When levels of beneficial bacteria are reduced we lose our natural balance that keeps the disease-causing bacteria under control.
Dr. Steven Levine, a respected nutrition researcher, states: “
We can look at oxygen deficiency as the single greatest cause of all diseases. "
So it seems to me that the lack of oxygen is the cause of all diseases.....
SCRUBS620":1jz6bs1e said:
The errors and false or misconstrued statements in your responses is mind boggling but par for the course for most holistic approaches I have seen. Maybe H2O2 is beneficial and these farmers have saved money but why do you have to make up "scientific" explanations to boast your claims. If the H202 treatments work for cleaning the water system great but please get an education before you start spewing this garbage again.
Hey SCRUBS620 I have an education. What I have stated is not errors or false statements as I have shown. Looks like you need readup about free radicals and how free radicals are necessary. Put away your 1980's science books. I have provided enough scientific evidence here for people to realize that normal healthy cells are NOT going to be harmed by extra "singlet oxygen" in your body. In fact it has been proven that extra oxygen multiplies the production of healthy cells. That is why it is so important for us and our animals to get extra oxygen into their system. What better way to do this than hydrogen peroxide. Right SCRUBS620? ;-)